is a noticeable presence here. severe police officers we saw camped outside this hospital a short time ago left. there appears to be movement of police resources, a high profile scene here, it is calm out here outside of the hospital, katie. jesse, thank you very much. let s bring in a retired atf special agent in charge and msnbc terrorism analyst. i do want to start on the issue of terrorism. earlier today, it seemed like the police commissioner was ruling out terrorism. i got a bit of a clarification from john miller who is the deputy commissioner for intelligence and counter terrorism here in new york city and he said, they don t know the suspect. they don t know the motive. and they re not ruling anything out. he also told me the reason why they re not going to call it trift terrorism, they re doing a