from president obama in which he lavishes praise upon jackson, recommending him for promotions to be sort of raised up inside the white house medical office and up till recently, there was not much of a sense i think inside the administration that these things were lurking or at least these questions or allegations were lurking in his background. where are the allegations coming from? nearly two dozen current and former cleefgz jackson s some of whom are still in the military. white house is casting this as basically him getting railroaded by what they call a bitter ex-colleague. one person is doing this they re saying? no, no, listen, there is some discussion about. i thought there was 23. right, that s what the number who have come forward with allegations. the white house is casting this as a dispute between ronny jackson and the guy who came before him, the doctor with whom there was some issues based on reporting and these internal documents. there s more coming. the dem
is undeniable there are harnd written notes from obama. we re not talking about somebody who typed this up on a computer. i saw with my own two eyes the signature of obama saying he s a great doctor. he s doing great. those are the things that the white house is saying. the problem is that i think that ronny jackson has the been backing the white house publicly. the president did not roll out the obama taking points. yesterday he made it clear, if i was jackson, i would probably be backing out of this issue. to me he s given him an off-ramp. i would not surprised if ronny jackson said i don t want to go to this hearing and get all this on the recorded. you jonathan, it seems to me that if this guy continued as the president s doctor, none of this would have come out. the only reason any of it cape out is he s about to run the veterans administration and finally we realized he drinks a lot, gives away med medicine he shouldn t give away, acts as a sort of concierge doctor,
the allegations are coming from. he says he is still moving forward. we re told by a white house official that he told the president these accusations are false and misleading. if you re going to pick a word to describe the mood at the white house tonight, it seems to be defiant. what do you hear about him? he s the white house he s the president s physician and he s supposedly now a boozer who drinks all the time on the job and nobody noticed it? reporter: let s clarify a couple of things. the allegation is he drinks on the job while traveling overseas with the president. ronny jackson denied it to the president. no, that he s drunk on the plane and unable to be do his job. that s the accusation. while in close contact with the president which gives senator tester such concern. from people under the obama administration, he was a decent guy, a good doctor. did he his job. and you point to the white house points to performance reviews
cliff. they still may be a bad actor. will containment? where we ought to be aiming is denuclearization. destroy the weapons they have. you ve got to get the weapons out of there. they pose a threat not just to the region, they pose a threat to the united states. is that realistic. and to the world. can any president do that? president obama couldn t do it. george w couldn t do it. clinton couldn t do it. we ve been trying since the 90s, remember the clintons tried to give them coal so they wouldn t go nuclear. the part that keeps changing. you asked me for my optimistic scenario is the allies. we were never going to be able to do this on our own. we didn t do iran on our own. we didn t saddle up and ride in on a horse. will she help us? that s the question. has she looked over the border and said wait a minute, we ve got a guy liking that with nuclear weapons right on our border? we need to rethink this.
people aren t usually so blunt about pay to play. let s be clear. people are usually in a world where they try to hide corruption. this is now a guy who is so corrupt, it s so thoroughly pervadeses everything he does and thinks about, he s willing to say in front of 1300 people that those who don t pay me get one kind of treatment and those who pay me i actually listen to and maybe will do work on their behalf. i have a sense if he was working for obama right now, on these issues he was pretty close to god, he would have bumped him out of the cabinet for the statement. gone. what does it tell you he s able to talk like this knowing his boss, the president of the united states will not mind him saying i m running a pay to play operation it? it means most corrupt administration ever. the fact that mick mulvaney could stand up. worse than grant? exactly the fact that mick mulvaney would stand up and say