a couple of candidates are not in that number that we showed a few minutes ago that say they met the donor threshold but not meeting the polling threshold. our calculation, the political unit and steve kornacki have been crunching this. expectation is tom steyer, billionaire who has been actively campaigning for impeachment, that s how most know him, he could make it, tulsi gabbard may make it. those are probably the only two left to make the threshold. ten people on the stage. we re at ten now. 12, i m sorry. and two more, we would perhaps see two nights of debates with six and six. but those two haven t made it yet. some criticism of joe biden to say that s the best argument you can win, his campaign says that s a pretty good argument, i can win. that s right, ali. we have talked about this since the moment joe biden came to the race.
to say i m here in philadelphia, as you know, and i m thinking about the officers and the community that was affected by the shooting that happened not far from where i live. so i just wanted to mention that. but to echo todd s point, i also spoke to beto s campaign and i m told that he is 100% not running for senate, period, because he thinks that he is the best candidate in this 2020 field to win texas and also that frankly if president trump is able to win texas again next year by nine points then a democrat is not going to be able to beat john cornyn in that environment. sew feels that he is really the best candidates to take texas for the democrats and the nomination and then to win in november. the september and october qualifications for the next set of debates require the candidate to not only meet a fund-raising threshold but also a polling threshold, as you know. so some of these candidates may meet the fund-raising threshold, but there s some question about whether or not th
having me on. i really appreciate it. and before i respond i just want to say i m here in philadelphia, as you know, and i m thinking about the officers and the community that was affected by the shooting that happened not far from where i live. so i just wanted to mention that. but to echo todd s point, i also spoke to beto s campaign and i m told that he is 100% not running for senate, period, because he thinks that he is the best candidate in this 2020 field to win texas and also that frankly if president trump is able to win texas again next year by nine points then a democrat is not going to be able to beat john cornyn in that environment. sew feels that he is really the best candidates to take texas for the democrats and the nomination and then to win in november. the september and october qualifications for the next set of debates require the candidate to not only meet a fund-raising threshold but also a polling threshold, as you know. so some of these candidates may
meet the fund-raising threshold, but there s some question about whether or not they re going to meet that polling threshold or not. so i think that that depending on how that goes we definitely are going to see a fitting of that. and we haven t seen that much movement in terms of the polling although we have seen candidates who maybe aren t doing that well pollwise, able to raise the funding to keep themselves on the stage. errin, let me note what you said as someone who once lived in philadelphia. we indeed have been watching what s going on there all day and all night. we have our final segment planned to wrap it all up and cover it as it stands at this hour. what a horrendous day for that fine city. we re just happy that six police officers are all out of the hospital. so we ll have that coming up. our guests have agreed to stay. we ll continue our political discussion right after this. and coming up, as this deadline approaches for the next debate, while joe biden is still fir
meet that polling threshold or not. so i think that that depending on how that goes we definitely are going to see a fitting of that. and we haven t seen that much movement in terms of the polling although we have seen candidates who maybe aren t doing that well pollwise, able to raise the funding to keep themselves on the stage. errin, let me note what you said as someone who once lived in philadelphia. we indeed have been watching what s going on there all day and all night. we have our final segment planned to wrap it all up and cover it as it stands at this hour. what a horrendous day for that fine city. we re just happy that six police officers are all out of the hospital. so we ll have that coming up. our guests have agreed to stay. we ll continue our political discussion right after this. and coming up, as this deadline approaches for the next debate, while joe biden is still first in the first southern primary,