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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191028 06:44:00

her so quickly? it s not even a 10 or 20 or 30 second process. no, said the examiner and certainly not by accident. and with constant pressure placed on the neck the person will lose consciousness within 20 to 30 seconds. after that point the constant pressure has to be maintained on the neck of an unconscious person for an additional 2 to 4 minutes before that victim is dead. if the jury couldn t believe daniel s choking story, what would they think about this? in this case chelsea s costume spoke for her. in fact it really shouted for her. the poison ivy costume, daniel had told detectives she removed it by herself willingly. not possible. in reality it would have taken quite a bit more force than chelsea would have been able to exert to remove the garment. my opinion was that the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191028 06:07:00

it. yes. not far from the body they found one artificial leaf just like the rest of the leaves on chelsea s poison ivy costume. so that s a hard call. you don t have absolute confirmation that it s her, but you know it is. we had a pretty good idea. did you call your family then or do you wait? we went out and told the family. we wanted them to know before they heard it because the media was showing up and the news was going to be all over it. we didn t want the family to hear about it that way. we went out and personally visited them and said we found the body. we don t know for sure if it s chelsea, but it s a female. we think it might be. for it to come down to that, it was extra tough to go out there and be the bearer of such bad news. becky wasn t family of course but it hit her pretty hard just the same. one of the ladies of work said they found a body.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191028 05:25:00

by the fire. she was saying she has no friends to give her a ride. she was cold. she was just upset. but then a kip the day of the heart. a woman called, saying her son may have seen something important. he remembers clearly it was chelsea because he tuk her about the poison ivy costume and how abomination of desolationly allergic he is is to poison i i. it was approximately in the morning. maybe it was a break in the case, he said he saw a a man hovering over chelsea. he s comfortabling her, talking to her. almost like they knew each other, said the witness. he describes her as taller,

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191028 06:03:00

to police about defending chelsea at the party. what did you think when you saw that? the hair on the back of your neck kind of stands up. coincidence? the detectives did want think so. first thing we did, called him for another interview. yeah, we finally got our guy here. yes. because you d been kind of wonky about him before, right? yes, things were adding up we had something on harlen. harlen came back to the station, this time with an attorney. how do we explain those items were found that close? i can t explain it. do you recognize how bad that looks? i understand how bad it looks. but it wasn t me. harlen admitted he d been to the abandoned building where the costume was found. do you have any thoughts as to why some of her clothing would be found

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191028 05:58:00

mother lived there. his ex-girlfriend lived on moore road, the same road where chelsea s shoe was found. i don t know her. i got to ask you. do you have anything to do with her disappearing at all? no. eric swore he was at home with his daughter that weekend. had nothing to do with chelsea s disappearance. he agreed to give his dna and fingerprints. i m going to swab the inside here. there was something else about the discovery of the poison ivy costume. it had to do with harlan bird. remember him? the guy who tried to sound like a hero who told detectives he helped chelsea at the party and then admitted his story was a lie? this abandoned building where the costume was found was literally 100 yards, 200 yards tops from harlan s house. you could see his residence

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