he is south africa s most prominent, most controversial political cartoonist. so, amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s s
welcome to hardtalk. jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s something personal about this outrage, which clearly developed quite young in you. you had a lot of trauma in your
jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s something personal about this outrage, which clearly developed quite young in you. you had a lot of trauma in your family, in your life cos y
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