is really fast. is that true? absolutely true, rachel. this is lightning pace. this is the, usain bolt, of court calendars. ordinarily and appellate case like this could take up to a year. by the time all the briefing is held, all the or arguments are done, and then the court considers it an issues in opinion and like the supreme court it is only three judges. it is not nine justices. still, they exchange opinions and go back and forth. it can really take many many months, if not a year for a case like this to come out. for it to happen in a matter of weeks like this really is lightning fast. now, the appeals court did say that while it issued is very blunt ruling, today, an ace three oh count among those three judges. they have stayed, effectively, the implementation of this ruling. for 14 days to give trump the chance to appeal this to the knighted state supreme court. what do you think will happen there, and what will happen in
that is going to do it for us tonight, i have run into the last words real estate, which means i owe them one, i ll see you again tomorrow, but now it is time for the unfortunately abbreviated last word. which i ve started to eat. my friend ali is in for lawrence o donnell, i m sorry ali. my pleasure rachel, you know this conversation we re having about the international guard, in oklahoma, a year ago we were 13 days away from having a vaccine. and it was sometime before i qualified to get one. i remember the day i qualified. i kept hitting the mud and i, had about nine websites open, and i tried to get an appointment, i was hitting refresh, refresh. and i was thinking to myself, while there s this free vaccine,
that could actually save my life from a deadly virus. it did not occurred to me, one year ago, that we would be having discussions like the one you just had. that people are actively working against getting a vaccine for a virus that is still active, and still killing people. to the point where a state s governor is putting on the line, the individual careers of all the guardsmen and women, to who he is giving advice about what is going to happen to them if they don t get the vaccine. which is in split stately discouraging them from doing it. it is just an astonishing thing. it is when you think about all the heroism that we ve seen from national guard members, from oklahoma, a national have stepped up to distribute vaccines, who have done so much on covid. for them to be road kill for this governor. they are the front line. thank you for bringing that story to our attention rachel. have a good moment will see you tomorrow. thanks. and of course tonight we begin with a new coro
rosenberg, former senior justice official, former fbi chief of staff. thank you for joining us. there s so many going on. my pleasure rachel. the president surprised everybody tonight told reporters he s happy to testify under oath to the special counsel. his lawyers appear to be freaking out about the president s remarks trying to say that s not what the president meant. are they right to be concerned? is a statement like that binding from the president? might that short circuit conversations that have been happening about this. it s not legally binding. they can take it back, it sounds like they have. people smarter than me can argue whether it s politically binding. but it has no legal value. if he changes his mind, he changes his mind. the justice department tonight releasing a letter to congress, specifically to devin
situation, but i have to imagine if you ve had a meeting with the fbi, even if you didn t know what it was going into it, if once you ve had that meeting, you think you shouldn t it tell anybody about it, it probably means you should a, get a lawyer and b start telling everybody about it. yes. just remarkable human side of the story and remarkable what we know. carol lee, congratulations on this huge scoop. thank you, rachel. i will say. in all of the news breaking today, one of the things i am most fascinated by is the news that mike pompeo has sat down with mueller s investigators. very careful word choice in carol s report today. she described mike pompeo as also having been interviewed by the special counsel. mike pompeo has an incredibly born role to play in this scandal at a lot of different levels. him talking to the mueller