from qanon to pizza gate to the former president s big lie about the election in 2020. you write if the requirement to get the support is to say a bunch of things that aren t true, no thank you. that s no who i am and who we are as republicans. isn t that exactly who republicans are now thanks to the former president and the lies that he s pushing and the conservative media who are buttressing it? no, i have more faith in my party and like, like, i think that a lot of people who are pushing that get most of the attention, but i think that there are a lot of people out there who are confused and who want to really know what the truth is, who want us to get back to talking about the issues that have traditionally been really important to the country for our party to be advocating. maybe i m too optimistic about that, dana, but i believe if you give people the facts, ultimately they come around to the facts. a lot of your fellow republicans particularly in washington denounced the ins
systematically and i came back to the u.s. there s a generation of americans raised on things like the birther fiction, the lie that barack obama was not born in the united states and eventually that kind of morphed into things like pizza gate. absolutely crazy fantasies. what happens is over time people get aculture rated they should make up their own reality. what we re seeing with this september 18th rally, it s the total invention that january 6th is something that should be celebrated. i want to ask you about this other book, not the evan osnos by bob woodward and robert c costa. the bomb shell out as we await its publication is that mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in between really in the time after january 6th was in touch with his counterpart in china. trying to assuage any concerns of a jittery china because there was so much chaos. china wasn t the only country that was probably jittery obviously during this time, but
essentially being radicalized by conspiracy theories. one man on a pizza gate conspiracy theory around the time of trump s election became a violent insurrection of thousands of people on january 6th. the scale of this challenge i think biden has the empathy and the reliance and expertise and decency and commitment of the country to address it. it goes beyond the national security realm, to our democracy, it goes to the information ecosystem in this country. and so it s going to take an effort that, again, relies on national security professionals but that also looks hard at what kind of country we want to be. we re going to sneak in a quick break. ben rhodes and donna edwards aren t going anywhere. stay with us. when we come back on the eve of 9/11 some thoughts this hour on what the next 20 years may look like.
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The faces behind the group are the couple John Sabal and his partner, Amy. On the social media platform Telegram, the two go by QAnon John and QueenAnon Amy.