martin savage and pilot martin. this has people asking whether crews could find the plane intact instead of all kinds of pieces of wreckage. could you give us some insight there? right. we have run this through the simulator a number of different ways. but we wanted to show you, there s a way it s possible the aircraft did not necessarily nose-dive when it ran out of fuel and slammed into the ocean from a high altitude. he shut the engines off to simulate running out of fuel, that s the scenario believed to have happened. that after flying for seven hours or so, they ran out of fuel. here s what happens. you can see, show us right there on the dash, so to speak. all these displays here, the numbers winding down, that indicates them winding down. two engines, both of them are down. we are now one very big, very high-tech glider.