americans should care about independent of the choices they would personally make for themselves, right? this is fundamentally about freedom. the right to make decision about your own life and own body. this is foundational principle in our country. we were founded on a notion that government should at some point stay out of peoples business. joining us now the president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights. a year since the fall of roe this saturday. take a big step back for me and tell me where you think we are today in the fight for reproductive rights. well, let me just start with today which is the first lady sitting around the table with four women who have had pregnancy crises, had to have abortions but were denied because florida and texas and louisiana, and we didn t see this before the reversal of roe v. wade that you would have at the highest level the kind of
department. those people are not a subject to the political whims of the new administration. the reason why we have a civil service. the reason why we have gotten away from this patronage system that was infamous in the weiyi value a non-corruptible professional public civil service that does the peoples business. that is loyal to the people and the constitution. not to donald trump. for example, many people have criticisms about christopher wray. and democrats think he blew it on january six. there is lots of reasons why president might get rid of him. but to systematically go through for the purpose of enacting revenge for your own personal justification is the epitome of what autocrats are doing. it is an attack on the rule of law. trump is not only try to get rid of all the people who went after him. he s planning on pardoning himself. this is a complete
that s kevin mccarthy. msnbc columnist says we should stop looking at the debt ceiling standoff as normal. he says gop leaders are threatening to harm americans on purpose and to shrug ones shoulders and see this as routine is to miss not only how u.s. politics traditionally work but also how our elected officials are supposed to conduct peoples business. how do you react to that? he s absolutely right. this is one of the dumbest things we do in congress and we do a lot of dumb things there. i ve been there now ten and a half years. my first session i was on the budget committee and we had this issue come up. it makes no sense that after congress s authorized spending and spent money there is a second follow-up vote or whether or not you re going to pay the bills you just said you are going to spend money on. if you sign a mortgage with your home you don t then suddenly decide every month whether or not you re going to pay that mortgage. if you don t you will lose your
attorney may do. but there should be a standard of ethics for people who serve in congress, certainly who serve in our party, the other party does in terms of what they considers at the colors up to them. but republicans should be very, very clear. at a minimum, we re expect all republican elected officials to be honest, to be very clear and forthright, to not play with the ball in terms of their income, and make inappropriate use of campaign funds and the like. we should have a high standard that we demonstrate that we are committed to that for our own members, and then we should apply that standard across the rest of congress in and of itself. this is a false equivalency to say, only if he has violated the law, then should he be expelled. he can be expelled for whatever reason that the members of the house of representatives shoes. and clearly, that meet that threshold if we are serious about being an honest party, and a party that places a premium on people who are in office for the
know, voters in their district could actually punish them for being full election deniers. although i do think that the agenda is probably going to ramp down. i mean, the x-factor here is trump. if trump decides, you know, he s going to sort of continue to talk about election denialism, how it was stolen for me and kari lake and the whole, you know, go through the whole gauntlet, it s going to probably become something that they talk about. but i don t see it as being a resident issue, certainly for voters. i imagine at some point, republicans will realize that is not really doing anything, there s nothing they can do in the congress. i think it s interesting because i think you re right, i think a lot of folks aren t looking forward to investigations, right? for the biden administration, i think people feel like they ve been passed that and they actually want to do the peoples business. but molly, i think the challenge for kevin mccarthy is that they don t seem to have a political a