joey, based on that question, does it look like there could be a hung jury? erica, good morning to you. good morning, paul. we should caution and the answer is yes, right. it looks like they are not able to reach consensus. we should caution that there are oftentimes, oftentimes where jurors come in to a courtroom, and they ll indicate to the judge they re having a problem. so this is not something that is unusual, i should add. and following that, there are oftentimes where jurors then do reach a conclusion. so when you ever have it brings the question the process. whenever you have 12 individuals from separate backgrounds, separate perspectives, having different points of view, that have to evaluate and analyze evidence, there s going to be disagreements, disputes, some discord. it doesn t mean they re not going to get there, they are just having some issues getting there now. as a result, the judge had to give them guidance, go back, do
pages of instructions to this jury. that s how complex this case is. so they re struggling with a lot of facts. paul, joey, appreciate you both. if i don t see you, happy holidays. released moments ago, obamacare seeing record enrollment numbers. why are some republican lawmakers still trying to throw up road blocks? wherever you decide to go, whoever you decide to celebrate with, what you can do to keep you and your loved ones healthy this christmas. feel stuck with student loan debt? move to sofi and feel what it s like to get your money right. move your student loan debt to sofi you could save with low rates and no fees. earn a $1,000 bonus when you refi and get your money right.
their memories accurate, could they be relied upon to ultimately get the facts right from something that happened so long ago. paul, as a former prosecutor there s been a lot of talk about how difficult this case is frankly for the prosecution. do you agree with that? yes, i do. it is an extraordinarily difficult case. it s difficult because you re talking about things that happened sometimes more than 20 years ago. and you re trying to recreate that for the jury and get them to rely on it. very, very tough for prosecutors to do that. they do it of course by calling an alleged victim and then trying to corroborate her testimony by testimony that, for instance, she told boyfriends that this had happened 20 years ago. so there is some corroboration of the claim. but, you know, if you re sitting in a jury room trying to decide whether someone is going to go to jail for 70 years, you want to be certain about the reliability of the testimony. and that s what the jury is struggling with.
gun in it. they want to see the gun, hold the gun to see how officer potter felt at the scene. as we look at the trial of ghislaine maxwell, the jury is deliberating there as well, also asking some significant questions. paul incident to start with you on this one. they asked for transcripts from some of the alleged victims, but not all of them. three out of four. and that really stood out to you. why? well, it stood out to me because the three victims they asked for transcripts on told more complex stories. their entire involvement with maxwell was more complex over an extended period of time. the final fourth victim they asked no questions about was a relatively simple encounter between maxwell and her that was testified about. so i think it kind of looks like they are accepting the testimony of one victim but not the other
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