beeve that that pack representative is su wilds, one of the senior campaign advisers for former present trump. it would serve to reason that prosecutors would probably designate it as a pack representative one, two, owe three if it was not, that she was allegedly on a signal chat with walt nauta and carlos discussing this issue of loyalty. so i think she s really going to be one to watch here because we know she s spoken with investigators plultple times, and it is likely if they have this signal chat they ve asked her about not only this alleged classified map but also these conversations about loyalty with these two individuals who have been criminally charged. and norm eisen, these are felonies. they re not misdemeanors. these are serious felonies that carry along if convicted years and years in prison. that s right, wolf. and the level of exposure for
all these conversations among the people who worked for donald trump and who were just trying to please the boss as he is called. and the level of detail is amazing if you read this approximately 60-page document. the specifics in here are incredible. yeah, and one of those specifics we re seeing a reoccurring character now. besides the people who are named the former president, walt nauta, carlos, those employees 1 through 5, but also someone referred to as a pack representative. these are representatives from trump s political action committee. in the first indictment this person was also referenced one of the more damning events in that indictment alleging that the former president showed this representative a classified map. and when we first got that indictment someone very close to the former president told me that s incredibly problematic because it suggests someone close to him, someone in his orbit, someone whose career depends on him may have given potentially incriminati
well as the new york times as his top 2024 campaign aide susan wild. what can prosecutors expect, lisa, if they need to rely on her to testify against donald trump? we know, from reporting, alex, that susie had met with investigators and special counsel office, several times. we don t understand yet that she has actually testified before the grand jury but the account that appears in the indictment about trump showing that document to a person named only of a pack representative. likely, comes from or at least in part comes from, their meetings with susan. wildes we do not know however, if others were present in the room there. if the only participant to the conversation were in fact susie wildes and donald trump, you can expect that susie wildes might be called at trial to talk about that. on the other hand, that incident is not part of the charged conduct.
do that for anyone at this point. trump has litigated extensively, the question of both executive privilege, and attorney client privilege. every time he is litigated those questions, including with people who served him at very senior levels in the white house, up to and through mark meadows, those arguments have failed. susie wildes, on the other hand, has only served as trump s campaign aide in as a pack representative at the time. she has never served him in an official capacity, certainly, trump is not working in an official capacity right now i do not think there are any defenses that he could raise with respect to privileges or immunities that would shield her from having to testify. alex at this point. okay that makes sense. let s get to another expert, this is from jackie s reporting, several authorities have asked witnesses extensively questions about activities at bedminster, including how the documents were packed, sent, and returned. adding, unlike trump s florida proper
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