and clearly we did lose tracks in the north east, parts of the midlands and parts of the northwest. that is the so called red wall. we have got a fightback on our hands, we recognise that. we are two years in and of course we are fighting for every single council seat in every single ward. let s see where we end “p single ward. let s see where we end up in in sunderland on those figures. it looks like we mightjust hold sunderland and i am pleased about that. but we have got to look at the overall picture across the country. it at the overall picture across the count . ., , , at the overall picture across the count . . , , ., , country. it was interesting to see the lib dems country. it was interesting to see the lib dems were country. it was interesting to see the lib dems were gaining i country. it was interesting to see i the lib dems were gaining modestly, about 2% in sunderland. there is talk a little more about the lib dem performance and a lib dem mp is waiting patiently to