because it is good for the country and good for the economy and the groups that come in and we need a shot in the arm, and i th think that having illegal immigrants here is bad for the immigrants and bad for the economy and that is not the only thing to solve the problem, but get it off of the table and get it done with. and admiral, conservatives deserted mitt romney like rats on a ship. i m no rat! and now, there is a division of race and class and the conservatives have a message going to john s point that appeals across the board. what might be that message that resonates that he is alluding to? well, i think that the grand old party can be a very viable party in the future, if it goes back to the american roots. they have one of the two roots down well, rugged individualism, but the other root that they
endorsed mitt romney in early august. august 4. $25,000 a plate fund-raiser. this wasn t from the junk. bill: to get him to go across is a motivating factor. i haven t talked to him. but i almost positive it s that he really is teed off about the remarks. remember during the super bowl, the half time in america, that was seen by many people as a veiled endorsement of president obama and his policies. and he turns around six months later and bill: that commercial was very widely seen and how did you see it? because when you were looking at that commercial when it ran, did it strike you as political? well, the mere existence of it, yes. it was kind of a political statement. he, at the time, took pains to say it wasn t. but you know what it stands for? rugged individualism. bill: that s what i mean. i think his appearance will also appeal not just to moderates, but gun owners because in so many of the
[ inaudible ] guns or religion. [ inaudible ] it s not that i want to punish your success. i want to make sure everybody behind you has a chance. i think when you spread wealth around it s good. a simple theory. we have to admit it s one that speaks to our rugged individualism. and our healthy skepticism of too much government. here is the problem. it doesn t work. it has never worked. the private sector is doing fine. if you have been successful, you didn t get there on your own. you didn t get there on your own. if you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. if you ve got a business, you didn t build that. somebody else made that happen. you re not on your own. we re in this together. dana: welcome back to the inappropriateness of the five at the table, because we started talking before you all were back. now that you re back we re
in kansas rugged individualism doesn t work and now if you accomplish success in your you didn t do it yourself you are standing on machine else s shoulders. the whole line against individualism and initiative runs sharply counter to the american narrative. it is more attuned to the pene pone one that values civil service and government involvement and humanitarian efforts. i think you can remake american politics if you are lucky. but you can t remake our culture except over a long period of time. steve: the president went off the teleprompter and a lot of people say. conservatives said mitt, you have to hit back. was he successful. yes, i am delighted that
[ inaudible ] guns or religion. [ inaudible ] it s not that i want to punish your success. i want to make sure everybody behind you has a chance. i think when you spread wealth around it s good. a simple theory. we have to admit it s one that speaks to our rugged individualism. and our healthy skepticism of too much government. here is the problem. it doesn t work. it has never worked. the private sector is doing fine. if you have been successful, you didn t get there on your own. you didn t get there on your own. if you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. if you ve got a business, you didn t build that. somebody else made that happen. you re not on your own. we re in this together. dana: welcome back to the inappropriateness of the five at the table, because we started talking before you all were back. now that you re back we re