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Transcripts for MSNBC PoliticsNation 20240604 21:19:00

could the circus outside affect what happens in the courtroom? that is not to say that this was a security failure. i watched the press conference. this is an area set aside for protests. sunday walking in there and misbehaving, it would not raise any eyebrows and by all accounts, what he did with the accelerant and letting himself on fire happened very quickly, but i think you are absolutely right, that we have already lost jurors who overnight rethought their position on this jury. imagine they are going to find out about this if they have not already. this is going to raise security concerns. these are regular folks doing their civic duty, and i have seen this in organized crime cases. the jurors get really nervous. they don t want to be on the jury, because it is too scary. this is not organized crime, but at the same time, jurors may be going home and maybe family members are saying you know people are liking

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:33:00

given to the defense council. they are making use of that correctly to identify potential problems. it s right that they are able to challenge prior statements. you want a jury that doesn t have strong views a that they can t put aside. so that s all fine, but the anonymity is something that already we have seen breached. the other thing the judge can do is do some form of sequestration. that can be everything from waiting until the jury is ready to deliberate, then the judge could say i m going to sequester the jury at that point. it s from the moment they are sworn, they are sequestered for the entire trial. that s very rare, but that is something that can be done. then there s a third option, which i have seen in a number of the organized crime cases that i

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Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20240604 16:07:00

conflict. the judge asks you in the presence of the lawyers from both sides, the prosecutor and defense. then they decide the judge will decide whether it s legitimate or you are trying to get out of jury duty. a long way to say, this is really going it s going in different directions. you know, it s an unusual process. we knew it would be because of this need to protect the jurors identities, which reminds me of doing violent organized crime cases. that s the only parallel that i have for when jurors were concerned that they remain anonymous. this defendant who we are seeing under questioning right now, it s not unusual to have rather, i should say, this potential juror. it s not unusual to see a potential juror who maybe has to clarify an earlier answer. in a situation where someone s not truthful, whether it s about a prior conviction or some other

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:05:00

a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. and andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and member of special counsel robert mueller s investigation also co-host of the indispensable msnbc podcast, prosecuting donald trump. danya and andrew, i found this to be a shocking revelation here. i don t know whether i should put my eyes back in my head here. the suggestion that a trump affiliated lawyer did not recuse himself or get off of this case for, a, a conflict of interest here. but that, be, the minute yuscil taveras no longer has trump lawyer, he flips. how do you read this, andrew? so, i think the reference to cassidy hutchinson is such a good one. i think it educate people on what is happening here in this case. as danya and i know, and our jaded, h special counsel mueller investigation. it happened in enron. it happened in organized crime

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:05:00

danya and andrew, i found this to be a shocking revelation here. i don t know whether i should put my eyes back in my head here. the suggestion that a trump affiliated lawyer did not recuse himself or get off of this case for, a, a conflict of interest here. but that, b, the minute yuscil taveras no longer has trump lawyer, he flips. how do you read this, andrew? so, i think the reference to cassidy hutchinson is such a good one. i think it educate people on what is happenisng here in this case. as danya and i know, and our jaded, this happens in the special counsel mueller investigation. it happened in enron. it happened in organized crime cases. this is a standard problem when you re a prosecutor of house counsel. and the problem that money buys

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