accusations as whistleblower s concerns grew. here is what happened according to the new york times. the whistleblower approached staff member on one of congressman schiff s staff house intel and suggested that he heard the whistleblower s story and the staff member suggested he file a complaint, get a lawyer, and meet with the inspector general. then the aide shared that story with schiff, didn t identify him, but told him the story. schiff, however, denied that he had spoken to the whistleblower. listen to this. we have not spoken directly with the whistleblower. we would like to. but i m sure the whistleblower has concerns that he has not been advised, as the law requires, by the inspector general or the director of national intelligence just as to how he is to communicate with congress. ainsley: operative word is there we. we haven t spoken. brian: he said he didn t help with the complaint. he said the contours of which he knew about.
sanitation. police say they arrested 14 protesters today who blocked traffic and turned over trash cans. texas governor rick perry is unveiling his national energy plan in suburban pittsburgh right now. live pictures. he says president perry will expand drilling on federal lands and get rid of clean air rules and other, quote, activist regulations. perry says getting bureaucracy out of the way will mean 1 million or more new jobs. perry has stumbled in the polls. his wife came to his defense. it s been a rough time. we ve been brutalized, eaten up and chewed up in the press, to where i mean, we re being brutalized by our opponents and our party. so much of that is, i think they look at him because of his faith. anita perry went on to say, we didn t have to do this. she says we are running to save our children and the soul of the country. end quote. presidential candidate herman cain is on a roll in more ways than one. he s kicking off a bus tour across tennessee nex
then generally speaking positively about law enforcement, but still staying on this whole keeping the door open a crack that the fbi, there s something wrong there he has to fix? reporter: i mean, clearly suggesting before he left to go down to quantico there are problems in the fbi and he said he wants to make the fbi great again. ali, he also opened the door to a potential pardon for michael flynn. asked directly about it. listen to his answer. i don t want to talk about pardons on michael flynn yet. we ll see what happens. let s see. i can say this when you look at what s gone on with the fbi and with the justice department, people are very, very angry. reporter: operative word, ali, yet. no discussions, no consideration are pardons but wouldn t necessarily know what s inside the president s mind, ty cobb.