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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 09:14:00

this is two electrical substations shot up with firearms, like in california in 2013 and like the neo-nazis just pled guilty to planning in ohio earlier this year. so this is major equipment. transformers at substations are often custom built equipment. they re big, they re complex, they are expensive. this is not a quick fix. it may yet be days in moore county, north carolina, before there is power. they have nobody in custody, nobody blaming responsibility, no word on any potential motive. apparently no suspects. in moore county this weekend it was two different substations. at and disabled by gunfire within about 45 minutes of each other on saturday night. now, the sheriff tonight was asked if those attacks were simultaneously or if they were sequential. if they were simultaneously if could be one perpetrator driving to one and then driving

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 09:04:00

power is going to be distributed to homes and businesses, it needs to be stepped down from that super high voltage that it s at for long distance transmission, has to get stepped down to the regular voltage that we all use when we plug something into the ball. a substation is where the power company puts its big transformers that either step down or step up the voltage between regular neighborhood voltage and the high voltage that s in those long distance high power lines. well, there was one of those substations filled with electrical transformers right next to the spot where whoever it was cut those fiber optic cables just outside san jose, california, in 2013. 21 minutes after they cut the second set of fiber optic cables, whoever it was started shooting into that electrical power substation with ak-47 style rifles. the wall street journal later reported when investigators

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 05:12:00

california. also to the extent that they re also planning on using high powered rifles to shoot up electrical substations and try to knock out the power. the guilty pleas to the plot that was uncovered by federal prosecutors, the guilty pleas for earlier this year in federal court in ohio. and now this weekend, here we are again. moore county, north carolina. i promise, you we will get through this and we will get through it together. moore county is very strong. we are very united here in more county. and we re not gonna let this hold us back. we re not i will promise you, to the perpetrators out there. we will find. you shortly after 7 pm, power outage began here in the carthage area. shortly thereafter, the outages would spread through the greater majority of central and southern north county.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 02:03:00

advised people in the area that you re going to have to drive to the nearest fire station and ask for help in person because we have no other way for you to reach us. but cutting the fiber optic cables in those two places, that was only part of the attack. because less than 25 minutes after thefiber optic cables were cut, the shooting started, right near the place where they had cut the cables was an electrical power substation. now, electrical power, you know this, it travels long distance on really, really high voltage, high power lines. but then when the electrical power is going to be distributed to homes and businesses, it needs to be stepped down from that super high voltage that it s at for long distance transmission, has to get stepped down to the regular voltage that we all use when we plug something into the ball. a substation is where the power company puts its big transformers that either step

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 05:22:00

amount of time plunge an entire community and school system, its infrastructure, its resources into this kind of chaos. and then that chaos could last for days. in terms of these random actors. we have no idea who did this. we have no idea for motivation. do we know anything further, anything beyond what we learned in the immediate aftermath of the attack about how this was carried out? i know they ve said it s too substations, it s my understanding that these are substations that we re about ten miles apart. i ve seen some reporting that it wasn t simultaneous attack. it was a subsequent attack although the sheriff is refusing to comment on that detail tonight. we also know with ortiz have described those substations been knocked out by gunfire and then there being a kind of cascading effect down the line that knocked out power so much more widely. is that still our understanding, do we know anything further about how it was carried out? yeah, part of what s been frustrating for r

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