the role of tiktok and whether it should be banned nationally or within certain states, and you see these concerns mentioned in those conversations. so it is absolutely a real concern, given past elections and the outside interference. especially in 2016, so i think you will be hearing a lot about that going forward. will be hearing a lot about that going forward- will be hearing a lot about that auoin forward, ., .,, ., going forward. julia has mentioned this issue of going forward. julia has mentioned this issue of abortion. going forward. julia has mentioned this issue of abortion. it going forward. julia has mentioned this issue of abortion. it appears . this issue of abortion. it appears to be from the outside anyway, to issues on which americans are very divided. may be more than two, but two of them are guns and abortion. absolutely. those are going to be two big absolutely. those are going to be two big issues heading into 2024. i think two big issues heading into 202
very meat and potatoes issues. look at the middle class and say look at the things i can do. i m going to build you bridges and roads. now there s something different he s doing that they never did democrats never ran on abortion. they never touched guns. these now seem to be the most powerful issues in his favor, even with sort of moderate people who might in the past have considered a republican is that kind of the way the campaign is probably thinking about it i think that s exactly right. that s what s happening, that s what we re seeing. there s nothing more american than fighting for freedom. that s the message we saw in the campaign today that s had message that s going to resonate with american voters that s what the president is going to be running on you mentioned charlottesville a little while ago i think back to the tiki torch racists marching in the streets, the ones donald trump called very fine people that s the same very fine people who a block away from here sacked t
in political terms, but can you talk a little bit about what a six-week ban in the state of florida on abortion and a ban on this abortion pill would mean to women in this country? well, absolutely. you know, we already saw this when texas passed their six-week ban. in that case, a vigilante law. you know, we just filed a lawsuit in texas there s now a total ban in texas. we filed a lawsuit on behalf of five women who had wanted pregnancies that were in septic emergencies. one of them ended up in the icu for three days because they said, you ve got to go into, basically, sepsis, before we ll give you a needed abortion. this is also what plays out, is that women wanted pregnancies, are finding themselves being told, no, you can t get the medical care that is standard because we have a criminal law in our state. the doctors are weighing that
is a crisis for women. we saw a lot of this tension when, right in the immediate aftermath of the dabs decision when you heard from advocates you want to do, for example, declare a public health emergency. on abortion. the biden administration declined to do that. they have also emphasized that they re not going to just ignore this judge s ruling, like some democrats have called for, so they re trying to make another case, obviously working its way through the justice department, and they re also trying to make the public relations case the white house actually just distributed a brief from from pharmaceutical executives just now that they filed with the court that emphasizes, for example, the ripple effect that this kind of decision could have on actual life saving drugs and the fda approval. or the ability to approve those, so they re trying to make that case. but sometimes advocates say it s not enough. and so part of the legal arguments just regulatory authority. take abortion of t
said cynthia la miss on abortion, it s similar. 61% of americans believe it should be legal and after the gop fought for and won a repeal of roe v. wade, voters have punished them at the polls we saw it in special elections at the midterms last year and with new conservative rulings going further like banning the abortion pill, we re seeing it again. this latest example is out of wisconsin where a liberal justice clobbered the anti abortion republican candidate for her position on the state s supreme court. so what is happening behind the scenes about strategy for 2024 joining me now again is ryan nobles who s back with us from capitol hill we also have washington post senior national political correspondent, ashley parker an msnbc political analyst let s talk about that, ashley. this idea that guns and abortion could potentially shape the 2024 election what is happening behind the scenes among republican leaders