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this relates to this incredible anecdote, mckay, in the washington post that involves stephen miller and the president. the night before trump delivered his first speech to congress in february, 2017, he huddled with senior rad visor jared kushner and stephen millner the oval office to talk administration. trump reminded them the crowd loved his rhetoric on immigrants. acting as if he were in a rally, he recited a few made-up hispanic names and described potential crimes they could have committed such as rape or murder, then he said the crowds would roar when the criminals were thrown out of the country as they did when he highlighted crimes by illegal immigrants at his rallies. what do you think of that, mckay? it totally made sense. i saw that anecdote as i was finishing the piece. stephen miller loves to egg the president on. he talked about this thing trump does at his campaign rallies where he leads the lyrics to the snake this old soul song
where he leads the lyrics to the snake this old soul song where he basically compares syrian refugees and illegal immigrants to poisonous deceitful snakes who will bite us because we let them into our country. it s clearly demagoguery, but what s funny is that when i talk to miller, he thrills at this. he spent several minutes describing the performance art of it, how theatrical it was, how the crowds love it. he compared it to the opening chords of free bird. and i think your other guests got at it, which is that to miller, a lot of this is performance smar performance art, it is theater and he has a way of turning the people affected by this into a kind of abstract side issue rather than the actual point of all of these policies in governing. michele, what s so striking to me though is that while roseanne found consequences