it s gross. russia is an adversary, at war with them, undeclared war. russia is an adversary country and it is gross to try to seek advantage in a u.s. election from an adversary. in a funny way, we would not be having this conversation if it was england because you wouldn t assume the country looking to dig up dirt on somebody did not have america s best interests at heart. russia did not have america s interests at heart j not friends of this country. you think it s enough, too. i don t know if it s enough legally, enough morally. that the president didn t have enough standing to sit in the oval office? i think that s a perfectly fair thing to say. if there is a legal standing, it is something he shall have to answer to the voters for in 2020 if he stands for re-election. one thing the trump team has tried to say about all of this throughout the course of the
government in a democracy. there s a difference between active engagement on a candidate and finding information no matter where it s coming from geographically. if the only thing that came out of this trump tower meeting, don junior had an e-mail exchange offered dirt, says, i love it, but nothing actually comes out of it. do you think that is example and evidence of collusion? i m not a lawyer. collusion is not a crime, conspiracy is. if you are working willingly with agents who are committing a crime, which the russia people would be doing and you re a willing participant saying, i would love it. i think there s a conspiracy there. you think that s enough? you can be guilty of a conspiracy even if you do not effectuate the crime. you think that s enough? i m not a lawyer but i think you can be guilty of a conspiracy even if the crime doesn t take place.
telling donald trump jr., this is part of russia and government trying to help trump get elected. you cannot work with foreigners to get elected. to the public, what is the difference between a campaign trying to dig up dirt from russia on a political opponent, the dossier, and a campaign getting dirt from russia, being offered dirt from russia. what is the difference? potentially, the main difference here, the information they had, this was part of the russian government s attempt to influence the election in favor of donald trump. you can t work with a foreign government. you can dig up information from wherever its origins are, if you can find donald trump was parking money in a swiss bank account, there s nothing wrong with that. that hurt mitt romney during this is campaign. you cannot work with a foreign
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