will try to establish a working relationship, as well. yeah, listen, kaitlan, kind of feels like yesterday. but talk to me about how this white house is trying to avoid the comparisons to trump s meeting with putin. where he stood on the stage next to him and said i don t see why it wouldn t be him. completely, so capitulating to to putin. yeah. i don t think that they re concerned that this summit will be anything like that. but i think they want to make sure that it is nothing like what happened in helsinki three years ago. and, don, that was the last time we saw a u.s. president meet with putin. and actually, appear alongside him. and of course, there was so many questions about not just that press conference where former-president trump embraced putin, and embraced his denials of election interference. going against what the u.s.-intelligence community showed. but also, it s the way he met with him. where there was a notetaker in the room but the president wanted the notes af
trying to coopt the justice department and get it to legitimize election fraud theories. this is one startling example that the committee s investigators remember, there are three at homeland security excuse me, house oversight, senate judiciary and then of course the inspector general. they have obtained these types of communications. very eyebrow-raising so you can only imagine how this has incentivized investigators to continue to dig because clearly what we ve seen is that the white house was determined to bring the justice department into this plan to try to legitimize claims that many, many people, including republican officials in other states, had said was untrue, that trump had indeed lost and there was nothing that could happen to overturn that result. katie benner, when i read your reporting about then acting a.g. rosen, i thought about the comey memos. i thought about don mcgahn and his note taker, annie dickerson.
when president biden brings up belarus, putin is going to bring up some grievance about what the u.s. has done. that s diplomacy. there will be grown-ups in the room on our side for the first time in five years, and they will work it out. and for putin, this is going to be reverting to having to deal with someone who actually functions as president of the united states, which he was relieved from having to do for four years. yes. i mean, lawrence, as you talked about many times, we have no idea what transpired between trump and putin over the last four years. notes weren t published. you know, now that biden is president, we get notes after meetings. that didn t happen with president trump. there was allegedly the story where he told the note taker to release the notes. so we don t know. i think what we want is a retsration to traditional diplomacy and there will be some tough points, you know, points
believe me, when president biden brings a belarus, you know, putin is going to bring up some grievance that he has about what the u.s. has done. that is diplomacy. and they will be grown-ups in the room on our side for the first time in five years. and they will work it out. and for putin this is going to be reverting to having to deal with someone who actually functions as president of the united states. which he was relieved from having to do for four years. yes. i mean, lawrence, have you you ve talked about this multiple times, we have no idea what transpired between trump and putin over the last four years. notes were not published. you know, now that biden is president would get notes after meetings. that did not happen when president trump there was allegedly a story where he told the notetaker not to release the notes. so, we do not know. i think it will have is a
reciprocity, eye for eye. when biden brings up belarus, putin will bring up a grievance he has about what the u.s. has done. that s diplomacy. will be grown-ups in the room on our side for the first time in five years and they will work it out. and for putin, this is going to be reverting to having to deal with someone who actually functions as president of the united states. which he was relieved from having to do for four years. yes. as you talked about many times, we have no idea what transpired between trump and putin last four years. notes weren t published. now that biden is president we get notes after meetings, that didn t happen with president trump. there was allegedly a story he told the note taker not to release the notes. we don t know. what we ll have is restoration