to the ukrainian troops who say they ll fight to the bitter end? we know about 600 or so or injured from the last time we heard from the people inside that steel plant. earlier i spoke about that with a military expert who slammed what russia is doing in mariupol. have a listen. make no mistake if russians wanted those civilians out, they would make the order and get every single civilian out. by the way, the wounded shoulders, those are considered non-combatant in an armed conflict. they re not fighters and need to get out as well. in the meantime, john, what we have been seeing in the batfield is russia really pressing on with its offensive in the east and intensifying i think it s important to point out intensifying that. they are somewhat a bit
those pictures, especially when you see the children, the women, the elderly, all of whom, according to everybody and whatever we can see, are non-combatant. this is just really, really tough to keep witnessing. it s one of the most severe massacres of civilians of this war now in its seventh week. it does actually strengthen the resolve. i specifically asked ursula von der leyen that. actually since the awful evidence started to emerge from around kyiv as the russians were being pushed back from irpin, from borodyanka, where we ve seen streets littered with bodies and bodies buried under rubble where the russians have deliberately just opened up on buildings and the like and where we know because of intercepts that this was not accidental, that was actually deliberate, it is part of their strategy. ever since then, each time there is one of these terrible, terrible outrages, it does make
stands today. in some ways, he is the most powerful never trump voice of all for the fact that he wasn t so clearly associated with that movement just associated with the notions of honor and decency and integrity he stood for in the political sphere even as a non-combatant so to speak. john heilemann and jonathan alter, thank you both very much for joining our discussion tonight. really appreciate it. thanks, lawrence. thank you. coming up, defendant trump went under oath today in a civil lawsuit. we ll be joined by ted butros, lawyer who will probably get his own chance to question donald trump under oath. that s next. to question donald trump under oath that s next. on sunday night and every night. nyquil severe. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine. darling, i, i can t get enough of your love babe girl, i don t know, i don t know, i don t know why i can t get applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neig
something else, he was part of this movement, as a voice for dignity. and that was the ultimate kind of review can some ways, to trump, and to what the republican party has become. colin powell is a lifelong republican, he s like what republicans are made to be. and yet here he was, by the end, not just laboring over whether to back john mccain or barack obama but fully on board with a traditional democrat like joe biden. and seeing no place for himself in the republican party as it stands today. in some ways, he s the most powerful never trump voice of all. for the fact that he wasn t so clearly associated with that movement, just associated with the notion of honor and decency that he stood for in the political sphere, even as a non-combatant, so to speak. john heilemann, and jonathan thank you very much for joining us our discussion tonight. really appreciated. thank you. coming up, defended trump went under oath today, in a civil lawsuit. we ll be joined by ted boudreaux s,