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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 01:42:00

many undecided voter, and those questions start tonight in just about 20 minutes. jeff zeleny, thanks very much. join alyssa farah griffin, scott jennings, and van jones. how big a problem can nikki haley s comments actually be? listen, she is actually not wrong. as the saying goes, iowa picks corn and new hampshire picks presidents. it hasn t been since 2000 that the republican candidate who won iowa went on to win with george w. bush. so in that regard she is correct. you don t want to insult your voters ahead of it. but she has always been playing for number two in iowa. she is playing for number one in new hampshire. and tonight i would argue the 11 days ahead is make or break for ron desantis. there is not a path for him if he doesn t overtomorrow expectations in iowa. what does that mean overperform expectations? i would say it s hard to stay. he has to beat nikki haley. even so, the money, the resources and the momentum is

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 01:55:00

head, and adjusting ever so slightly according to her political needs. and now she s getting called on it. so, she s going to have to be very careful about this because everybody knows the record that van cites here and everything that she said during this campaign. i think she s trying to make inroads with women. that s a core demographic she has an issue with. i think the issue of gun violence and the fact they might be a victim of school shooting resonates with the suburban moms we talk about. i wonder if that might be something she realizes to reach a core constituency, there may need to be movement beyond just addressing the mental health concerns. one of the things i think nikki haley has done a good job on look at something like abortion she s able to convey empathy while she s taking a fairly conservative position often. tonight would be a good chance for her to do that when this comes up. can she show that she can be that empathizer in chief even if she s firm on her p

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 01:53:00

you ve got to work with law enforcement, not against law enforcement, and you need to identify those individuals who should not have access. i can t imagine anything changing on their minds tonight. not fundamentally. i m sure they ll offer condolences and sympathies. i think it s a moment to show humanity and have a solemn presence on this. i do think, especially as a pivot toward the general might come for one of these candidates, getting around one of the 80% issues, like supporting red flag laws, is a good place to be. supporting background checks is where they can ultimately come out. that s the crazy thing. even after the massacre in our own state at mother emmanuel, nikki haley comes out and says she s against red flag laws, against expanding background checks. one of the worst shootings, a shooting that changed the trajectory of her career, where she did a lot of things right, she wouldn t go for expanded

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 01:59:00

breaking through. i don t give trump tremendous credit. he s not a remarkable salesman in this regard. those running against him didn t litigate the case of why those were legitimate in the course. i think it s interesting he s chosen to spend the day before the iowa caucuses in the hearing in washington over whether he has immunity or not. i do feel he s going to spend a lot of the campaign campaigning from courthouse steps because of what van said. you can t discount the fact that so much of this was a strategic argument. he can t win. maybe it s because of the legal issues. maybe it s because of something else. what s happened? all these national polls have come out showing trump winning, winning in swing states, beating joe biden nationally. and they re still making it today. only trump s going to lose, trump s going to lose. the republican voters don t believe that. they think vindication s at hand. i want to thank everybody. the back-to-back town halls with ron desantis and

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