offer hip a piece of cake, and you think he s just going to abandon his country. no that s not how it works. nations don t have permanent friends and enemies they have permanent interests. our issue is china has deep interest in north korea. it s a next door neighbor. they have worries about it imploding. we need to get at that rather than thinking we can wow the leader. so similarly with putin, putin is a russian nationalist. he has a very cheer and intelligent view of russia s interest. you ve got to get to him at that level rather than thinking you can power around and somehow and say oh i forget yes, just sign up with the american agenda. i m glad you mentioned putin. you called him the most powerful map in the world. you met with him about a year ago. so tell us these two personalities coming together. take us into that.
nations don t have permanent friends and enemies. they have permanent interests. and our issue is that china has deep strategic interests in north korea. look, it s the next door neighbor. they have worries about it imploding. we need to get at that rather than thinking we can wow similarly with putin, he s a russian nationalist. he has a very clear view. you have to get to him at that level rather than thinking that he can pal around and somehow i forgot and i ll sign up with the american agenda. you said the most powerful man one of the most powerful men in the world. you met with him a year ago? a year ago. so tell us, these two personalities coming together, big personalities coming together, take us to that. couldn t be more different. putin is quiet.
russia is allied with iran. inevitably, there was going to be a crash. nations don t have permanent friends and enemies, they have permanent interests. the permanent interests of russia and the united states are opposed. it is possible that donald trump will look at this and recognize that, you know, it s not as easy to cut a deal with a guy you might admire because he seem as tough guy, and that maybe on ukraine, similarly, we have just fundme fundmentally opposed interests, and we re going to have to deal with the russian from a position of strength. you mentioned to me, as wolf was speaking to our correspondent, that iran and iraq may be, we should be looking to them to see their response, what their response will be. well, the question was posed, will syria do something against the united states? and i don t think that directly they will, but they certainly can through proxies. it would not be inconceivable if iran s presence in iraq, which we understand is rather large,