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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191006 14:56:00

the whistleblower now says he represents multiple whistleblower. we think of national emergency, we recall a moment of collective crisis which engulfed in the nation. is the mainstream media treating trump s scandal and impeachment in the same way? if it is not, should it? joining me now is ej dionne at the washington post.post. paul butler, natasha burke of political and jason johnson of the roots. thank you so much for sharing your sunday with me. we ll start with shawna, are we in a national emergency and is the media cover it such. we are in the process of impeachment inquiry of the president of the united states. it has not happened many times in the country.

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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191006 15:47:00

since we keep on talking about this joke. let s listen to it. like wise, china should start an investigation into the bidens. because what happened to china is just about as bad as what happened ukraine so i would say that president zelensky, if it were me, i would recommend they start an investigation in to the biden because nobody has any doubt that they were not crooked. oh, what a card! he s not joking. the ukraine set up. was he joking the first part of the sentence and not joking the second part of the sentence or the reverse? of course, he s not joking. listen, we know there is a phone call, how much longer before we get the transcript of that and then what are these republicans are going to say? natasha, real quick?

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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191006 15:13:00

information on other people. it is misguided to focus on the whistleblower because we have seen the president come out and admit to this and we have seen the document and state department representatives who were doing this behind the scenes pretty blatantly. i think while the whistleblower is coming forward is helpful. we already have the evidence that we need out in the open. it is a great point, paul. what natasha says, the question of the investigation is did the trump team shake down the ukrainians to provide dirt for the political enemy? the answer is yes. the second whistleblower may corroborate that. the second whistleblower may expand what we already know. other smoking evidence of the president s corruption here. his own words in the summary of that july 25th conversation with the russian leader. the text messages between our ambassadors and involved with

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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191006 15:12:00

whistleblower coming forward advance the story or change the narrative or box the president in a tighter corner or give me your responses and i will start with jason johnson? this helps because there is going to be a flood of whistleblower coming forward. everybody is covering their butts at this particular point. maybe the adults in the room or people who were just concerned. they should blow the whistle as their theme song what they re going to come forward. that s what we ll see for weeks now. it is one thing to try to persuade one whistleblower and find out things about their family when five or six or seven people, some appointed by the trump administration, that s a sign that the dam is finally breaking. natasha. i think it is definitely going to get credence to the first whistleblower s complaint more so than the transcripts we have seen already because this person also has firsthand knowledge and presumably give

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Transcripts for MSNBC AM Joy 20191006 15:01:00

up. the supreme court won t, the senate won t, the media must. natasha, i want to get your response as well. before you do, just jumping off on what paul just said. let s take a listen on what newt gingrich had to say on fox news on tuesday. what you are watching i is it is not an impeachment. it tells you how sick the democrats are that they prepare so much and people like adam schiff are just plain liars. it is not as coup because impeachment is a constitutional remedy to alleged crime and bapti misdemeanors by the president. people like newt gingrich and people like senator ron johnson and this morning with chuck todd are going to launch the fiercest

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