Tavis he is a professor of risk engineering at nyus Polytechnic Institute and author of two bestselling texts. His latest is called antifragile. Nassim Nicholas Taleb joins us tonight from washington. Professor, good to have you back on this program. Thank you for inviting me. Tavis i want to get into the book. Let me start with the news of the day. Everybody in washington is talking about the fiscal cliff. The socalled fiscal cliff. Theyre not talking to each other at the moment. That is what the conversation is going to get to, how do we avoid going over the socalled fiscal cliff . You suggested that the fiscal cliff might be good. I got a chance to go through your book. I understand, i think, why you might feel that way. The book argues that we need disorder to develop. We need disorder in our world to develop. We will come back to the book in a moment. Based upon the motion that notion, why might the fiscal cliff be a good thing . We have been stuck for four years in a state of com
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