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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 04:07:00

unlock it. note to self, never use a face print to lock anything. we have all these very granular details tonight about that search warrant being served on john eastman, and federal agents taking his phone. we have all these details because john eastman filed a lawsuit in federal court, seeking to have the search warrant thrown out, and seeking to have his phone returned to him. and as part of that lawsuit that he filed, he disclosed the search warrant and his own description of what happened, when these agents turned up and said, hand over your phone. so, like i said, we are gonna get some expert help on this, in just a second. we ve got federal agents, executing search warrants, which means a federal judge found probable cause that there s evidence of a crime or crimes, at the location being searched. and in that case, this means in the home of one trump lawyer, jeffrey clark, and on the south of another, john eastman. we ve got this torrent new

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:07:00

is the justice department signaling the seriousness of the case. you need to make a legal showing to get these warrants. in terms of the unlocking of the warrant, i ve looked at the information, and the warrant actually provided for the phones to be unlocked. so that was pursuant to the warrant. so to me, what it signals is this was a coup, not with guns and bullets, with lawbooks and statutes. you have two of the lawyers who were in deep trouble. that points to the client, donald trump. and gloria, to this point, this seizing of john eastman s cell phone comes on the same day that the fbi raided the actual home of jeffrey clark, the doj lawyer. what a coincidence. right, randomly on the same day. so, you know, you take those two data points, how close is this all getting to trump himself? well, these are people who were very much in his orbit, and as norm was pointing out, these were the people who were talking

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:08:00

about decertifying the electors and trying to figure out a way to get around a free and fair election. and, you know, you have to go to a judge before you can get this kind of search warrant. and you have to show some kind of probable cause that there may have been a crime committed. so i think this is pretty serious, and as we know, donald trump is kind of obsessed with these hearings. you can t blame him for whoatchg these things and i m sure he s not thrilled about these developments since these two men were key in forming, sort of, the rationale for their, the coup. norm the hearings schedule obviously has changed multiple times but it had been left that at the end of last week that they were having hearings in july and put out all the requests for new information and we knew about the jeffrey clark raid and all these things. it was still going to be july. and, you know, after july 4th, and now, all of a sudden,

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:04:00

right? and they usually are out, you know, being willing to address the public and they re not doing so ahead of this hearing. i want to go now to our justice reporter, also in washington, and caitlin, you got to put in the context of this phone, john eastman s phone being seized, what more are you learning. so we have learned the fbi, a separate investigating body than capitol hill, this would be the justice department, is seizing the phone of just a eastman, this right wing lawyer working with donald trump last week, the same day that there was a search also conducted by federal agents of another top lawyer close to trump, wanting to push these election lies, named jeffrey clark at the justice department. so what happened was this was in new mexico. there were about 6 fbi agent that is went up to john eastman as he was exiting a restaurant after dinner, they patted him down, got his phone, had his iphone on him, had him unlock it with his face and able to access

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20240604 23:09:00

shocking everybody, there s hearing tomorrow. 24 hours notice hearing tomorrow, new information has come in and witnesses are involved. what do you think is behind this sudden change? well, erin, you know, the committee has earned a great deal of creditability. so just as they postponed one hearing, the doj hearing which turned out to be a block buster one, that pointed to the possible culpability of that other lawyer, jeffrey clark, now they have seemingly moved up that plans for the hearing schedule. having tried many cases, worked on the hill, sometimes witnesses do step forward who have dramatic new information and you don t delay when that happens. get them on the stand, that s always been my watch word when trying cases. so that i take them at face value. they have something explosive here. and that s the question, gloria, norm uses the word

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