lot of concerns about what congressional leaderships role was on january 6th, and that s something only a january 6th commission could look into, and that s something he doesn t want. one officer told senate investigators, he said we were ill prepared and not informed with intelligence and we were betrayed. how does capitol police leadership grapple with the feelings of betrayal, and it s already under staffed and underfunded and there are recruitment and retention problems. absolutely. such an important issue to focus on, because this has happened for several law enforcement agencies when they have a fairly humiliating and painful failure on a security front, and they are often under staffed when that happens and they lose more people after because of the morale issue. on multiple layers this police
in reaction to a shooting that had occurred or shootings that had occurred at similar music venues so seeing the back and forth that is not able to be stopped by law enforcement at this stage. i cannot overestimate, or overemphasize how shocking this attack is, the three guys are hooded, with glasses it appears, they are waiting, and they just shoot into 20, 30, 40 people. we don t see that very often and just for the grace of god, that not more people were killed, and we are unfortunately, the backlog and the exhaustion in public safety, the retirements that you re seeing, everything else, will have an impact at this stage. no question. but as i always say with you, guns the kind of guns that allow you to shoot more quickly with a larger capacity magazine that obviously increased those numbers. you mentioned retirements. there is a morale issue that you hear both anecdotally but also from commanders. i ve had a number of
yet at the same time, this success? reporter: so, i mean, the baghdadi, if in fact this is beau bakr al baghdadi who was killed in this raid, it s significant for isis, because he s a figurehead, right? there s not an immediate obvious successor at this point. there will be some time of turmoil. in an organization that s candidly in some turmoil. much of them have gone underground in this region. they re not organized into a caliphate. they re not holding land in a way they once were. there will be moments of turmoil. for the most part, someone pops back up afterwards and takes over and things sort of go on as they would have. so the morale, there might be a morale issue. fort larger issue of this back and forth, the confusion that u.s. troops are feeling about they re coming, they re going, they re staying, we still don t know. as hans was saying, we don t
has a lot of documents to show what he calls a trail of settlements that were not exposed earlier. some related to other people. harris: it is up to nbc did knock down the charges in this book. maybe they would not stop the story. if you can kill it, why would you why try to kill the story of the facts were true? the story that he is telling is pretty on the matt lauer part and the harvey weinstein. you mention the morale issue, i think it is also going to be a concern to advertisers and most of all the viewers. and they obviously are in a competitive situation in the news business. harris: big name women, some of them not working at nbc anymore like and curry are coming out. she knew matt lauer pretty well, coming out and saying that they believe the female occurs accuser against matt lauer.
when they feel like city hall doesn t have their back. at least that s what they are verbalizing. it ll feel like they have protection. many of them, i talk to former officer last night who said they are afraid to do their jobs. that there will be a lawsuit, a claim. so, yes, they will show there s a call for help. for 911. they may not be pursuing things on the street they could be. we saw this after freddy gray s death in baltimore. there was a period of pulling back from the officers there who said there were charges brought against them, they were either acquitted or the charges were dropped. they felt they were really demonized in that situation. i think this differently morale issue. i don t know how to solve it. kennedy: how do you find the balance? katie: first of all, police all over the country put their lives on the line every day to do a really tough job and they have to make split-second decisions that are also life or death for them. that doesn t justify when there