they give us a ceiling price which is set up seven, so are your members making a loss at the moment on all the fertiliser they are selling? some members that follow the law shall i put it that way? they are losing money? losing money. there are rice farmers, though, who make themselves less vulnerable to the soaring cost of fertiliser. udong khamwongsa lives in one of thailand s least fertile regions in the north east. making a living here is even harder than in the central plains. but udon hasjoined a german funded project which helps farmers to reduce the use of fertiliser while still getting roughly the same crop yields. the instructor, montri, is telling her and her neighbour, songkran, how the war in ukraine is driving up prices.