trump they believe this is almost personal. they re taking it personally. it s important to know what we heard from the courtroom. one of the prosecutors tried to prebutt this line of argument saying this case is not about politics. this case, this investigation which is on going by the way, is proper am trilg to make the point to the judge. and to everybody in that courtroom that this is not because donald trump is donald trump. this is because there were, you know, legal issues that were going on as it relates to allen weisselberg. i need to these this out more. this has been a very intense pr push on the part of the trump organization. we saw allen. i think we saw awe different trump attorney. we got the statements now. we heard from the trump organization earlier today.
oh, my gosh. i m like my mother now. we all are. start over. i am a little surprised, nicolle. i think the charges against the trump organization, to me, would likely be lumped in one indictment in af ordinary case. this is a detailed indictment. it s clear they spent a lot of time on this. on the one hand you could say they made a run at allen weisselberg, a run to try to flip him. he decided not to flip. so as part of indicting him, they ll also indict the company for the same conduct and they ll keep the other fraud investigation separate and maybe go forward with that later. that s the best case scenario. but i m a little surprised ordinarily an indictment of a corporation would be the last step you take because you re never going to get a cooperation from a corporation. you get cooperation from individuals. that being said, this is a very
and so i think if you take it all together and up see the d.a. is trying to be very clear with the trump organization which now stands indicted and with mr. weisselberg that they re not playing around, that this is their first move and there are references in here to things that could, we can t say will, but could ensnare others. a reference to an unindicted co-conspirator nbc reporting says is not donald trump but is somebody, a reference to donald trump s ledger. a reference to federal tax evasion, which obviously poses questions for the garland justice department about concurrently or later whether they deal with that regarding both mr. weisselberg or the company, and the big question that looms over all of this and, nicolle, you ve been such a reporter and student on it. i m curious what you and the other panelists think. if mr. vance went to the supreme court to get mr. trump s tack returns and he has them and was willing to aggressively make this case against mr. weisselberg, a c
persuasive indictment for the charges that it alleges which still are less serious than some of those charges michael cohen testified to. the documents they reference are extensive. it s clear that they ve done a good investigation and that they have the goods. the big question for me, though, is it s easier to make this case based on the evidence that they have, which is a very different case than making that insurance fraud that michael cohen talked about because particularly to charge donald trump for that because donald trump has a lot of defenses based on allen weisselberg, my cfo, my accountant said this was okay, as an example, or advice of counsel defense saying my lawyer said this was okay. i m not a trained lawyer. i took their advice. and so without a witness such as allen weisselberg to say i
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