marriage have long pressed for the president to say just those words. but for the past two years, he and the white house would only go so far as to categorize his position on same-sex marriage as one that was in the process of evolving. whether gays and lesbians should be able to get married, i ve spoken about this recently, as i ve said. my feelings about this are constantly evolving. i struggle with this. you ve said your position is evolving. you said you re struggling with it. what more do you need to know? well, you know, i probably won t make news right now, george, but i think there s no doubt that as i see friends, families, children of gay couples who are thriving, you know, that has an impact on how i think about these issues. again, what i know is what his position was during the campaign and what it is now. you know, he s been very clear about it, he was very clear in the campaign, he s very clear about the fact that his position that it s evolving. the
congressman from michigan joins me now. congressman, i watched that. powerful stuff. you seem to be suggesting that the american people responsible for our nation s debt. it s congress. congress needs to cut the real debt into burdening people. it s not necessarily the federal debt but it s mortgages, student loan, credit card debt. that is crushing the american public. if we cut the debt and ask them to be debt-free. so quit spending money you don t have and cut up your credit cards because that action along with congress for giving certain student loans, cutting mortgages down to the value of our homes, they could free up money americans can invest and support employers to free up jobs. here is my point. that confuses personal debt on credit cards, mortgages, college. that confuses that debt at the
living standard, and the typical american. when americans hear the word poverty he is anything of someone who does not have anything food to eat or possibly homeless. not true. stuart: i remember in the last few years being told that something like twelve percent of the children in america go to bed hungry at night. you saying that is not accurate. guest: that is absolute lie, it is taken from an agriculture report. that shows that maybe 2 percent of children at some point in the year would go do bed hungry and it is just not true. it is a form of exaggeration. let me say i have great deal of sympathy though the children that go do bed hungry, one in five poor families does struggle at some point in the year to have enough food to put on the table and i have sympathy for those people, too, and they are of a concern. but, it doesn t do us any good to grossly exaggerate and misrepresent the living conditions of the overwhelming
debt into burdening people. it s not necessarily the federal debt but it s mortgages, student loan, credit card debt. that is crushing the american public. if we cut the debt and ask them to be debt-free. so quit spending money you don t have and cut up your credit cards because that action along with congress for giving certain student loans, cutting mortgages down to the value of our homes, they could free up money americans can invest and support employers to free up jobs. here is my point. that confuses personal debt on credit cards, mortgages, college. that confuses that debt at the personal level and blames the individual for that debt. it confuses it with the national debt. this is essentially politically driven. no. in order for our economy to
guest: part of the reason when you look at the living conditions of 43 million the census says are poor, in fact, they have all these modern conveniences if you ask them, did your family have enough food to eat at all times during the lat year, the overwhelming majority will say yes, and if you ask, were you able to meet any medical needs you had, they will say yes, and the typical poor family in the united states lives in a house or apartment and has pore living space than the average european, not a poor european, but the average frenchman or the average german. so, in fact, there really is not any connection between the government s identification of poor people and the actual living standard, and the typical american. when americans hear the word poverty he is anything of someone who does not have anything food to eat or possibly homeless. not true. stuart: i remember in the last few years being told that something like twelve percent of