presidentjovenel moise. so i m telling you that it s part of the whole character assassination. and they succeeded. because what they did first is to, you know, assassinate his character, so to make it vulnerable, and then physically kill him. but. so i should say they succeeded. you keep talking of character assassination. i look at the record. again, when you were in government as foreign minister, then briefly acting prime minister under president moise, according to a harvard law school report, killing with impunity by violent gangs in your country increased and your government, your government failed to hold the perpetrators to account. now, why is that? so, what i can tell you is that presidentjovenel moise and his government tried their utmost to actually fight the gangs in all those areas. but they.
what you need to understand is that those gangs has political ramifications. oh, i understand that. yeah, they do. they do have political ramification. whenever someone wants to bargain or get something from jovenel moise, you see kidnappings everywhere. so we know that and we denounce that. when i was, for instance, minister of foreign affairs, i denounced the political ramifications with gangs, and gangs are everywhere, with politicians, with oligarchs. they use them as bargaining chips. so that s exactly what happened in our case. do you think it is fair to describe haiti today, and indeed for many years previous, as a broken, failed state? iwould. i would say that this is a country that has a history of.
about those who really. ..those who really possess the country s wealth, the less than i% that actually earn more than 80% of haiti s income and wealth. so this is what we are talking about. so myself, as a young, if you will, academic and politician, i m not a part of this. but what i m trying to do today is to actually denounce this situation where an elite few takes hostage a whole population. so this is exactly whatjovenel moise was denouncing. jovenel moise was not a politician. he was a family man from the northern part of the country. and when the then outgoing president martelly hand picked him, they thought that he could be a puppet. someone with the right background and history,
he fired a former minister ofjustice. so, as i said, it s not personally myself that actually implicate him. the haitian national police report clearly says that he spoke with the guy who was. the guy in charge of killing president.or the operation of killing president moise. you and i must be very careful when we discuss this. this is an ongoing investigation. the gentleman that you just referred to, mr badio, who you say was at the centre of this assassination plan, well, he s gone missing. nobody knows where he is, and nobody knows what his attitude is to the charge that you ve just laid at his door. someone knows. someone knows, actually. he spoke two times in the morning, july 7th, with the prime minister. but again, the prime minister,
assassination, first, and then doing four years, and then they kill him physically. so i m aware of those things, but i do know that that was part of the whole character assassination. but just answer the specific question. we have this gentleman, jimmy cherizier. there was no link whatsoever. ..known as barbecue. now, the man is known. he says he s not a gang leader. he leads a, quote unquote, armed group. it s called the g9 family. he has been accused of involvement in killings, kidnappings. he denies those specific allegations. mm hm. but there is an accusation that president moise, at the time you were serving in government as foreign minister, was actively supporting, allowing the activities of this man barbecue, cherizier. i can tell you it s not true. i know that he used to march against