does it mean destroying facilities and how important is that when you go into a negotiation? well, it is not clear, first of all. and it s not clear what the north koreans mean by that word either by the way, in terms of what we re going to do 10 to sure their security. and it s just very, very rare in the international diplomacy for a country, any country, to negotiate away its nuclear weapons program. the lesson is if you have them, that deters attack and if you don t have them, that makes you more susceptible to attack. so, again, i wish the president well, i hope he has a game plan for succeeding with denuclearization. i m just skeptical that we have a strategy for achieving that outcome. it s always a pleasure to have you on and your perspective. thank you for joining us. i m going to ask shelby and grace to hang out because we want to talk about pure politics coming up. mitt romney staring down a longer path in that utah senate seat than may have been
supportive of the president gaent, support tiptive of donald trump. mitt romney was not in favor of donald trump in the run up to the campaign? he supports the president s agenda. off all of them? not all of them. he speaks out when he thinks he s wrong and he s with him when he thinks he s right and that s the kind of leadership that the governor where bring to the sfat. independent leadership sticking with the president when he thinks he s right but not hesitating to speak out if he thinks what he s doing is wrong or at odds with utah values. before i let you go, did romney misstep with this delegate vote with what happened at the convention? no. he approached both strategies, getting signatures and going to the convention and that s what he want dotd entire time. will he be the next senator for utah? he absolutely will. i don t want go over to garrett hake for a different race that a lot of folks are watching. we re talk about the one in arizona. had say big deal, b
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talk together salt lake troo tra bune and he said i know there are many people who are not enthusiastic about someone gathering sikt gathering signatures but he says it was right for me, i m glad i did it that way. then says first about the senate race. none of us is david, david was anointed of god. and secondly i m not goliath. washington, d.c. is the goliath. there are those that might look at that and say romney is the overwhelming favorite to win. how is he not the goliath in this? he s running a grassroots campaign on utah issues. he s representing utah issues in washington, that s the kind of campaign he s running and that s why he got in the race. he thinks he s the best person for the job and he s going to run hard between now and the primary and on election day in november. i know you re not involved just so viewers know, ufr not involved with the senate campaign in a formal way. but romney s been traveling around the state for a while meeting with voters. and he s been s
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