mistake, but i think that s what the north koreans are trying to do. kelly: as we heard in jamie s interview with army chief of staff, the general, he said i would advise against any miscalculating to respond, to deter, anything provocative launching a missile against guam or threatening south korea. let s talk about kim jong-un of course the leader of north korea. he s only 30 years of age. is he doing this all of this on his own or listening to hardliners within his regime? it s an important question and we don t have a good answer to it. it may be that kim is the, you know, the third in a line of hereditary communist dictators, that s a unique situation in the world in and of itself, maybe he s in charge of north korea. it may be that he s simply a figure head and the military is in charge or it could be a hundred different variations
provide additional protection for our groups, as you mentioned, and for south korea and japan. in the short-term, i think that the pentagon is acknowledging implicitly by this move that they are concerned and i think secretary of defense hagel said as much today. greta: if they shoot off something, we use our missile defense and act defensively. is that an invitation of provocation for us to take it one step further in our reply? well, i think the north koreans, that s why this risk of miscalculating is so high. a couple of years ago they sank a corvette and killed sailors and shelled a village on the island off the coast, and the government of south korea did not retaliate. the people there and the new president are primed to do something if north korea takes the step. all of this indicates why the
provide additional protection for our groups, as you mentioned, and for south korea and japan. in the short-term, i think that the pentagon is acknowledging implicitly by this move that they are concerned and i think secretary of defense hagel said as much today. greta: if they shoot off something, we use our missile defense and act defensively. is that an invitation of provocation for us to take it one step further in our reply? well, i think the north koreans, that s why this risk of miscalculating is so high. a couple of years ago they sank a corvette and killed sailors and shelled a village on the island off the coast, and the government of south korea did not retaliate. the people there and the new president are primed to do something if north korea takes the step. all of this indicates why the
now. four-star general, served as vice chief of staff of the army and a fox news military analyst of course. jack, good to have you here this morning. good morning, martha. martha: general thurman, i know you know, said that he s concerned that he has never seen tensions quite like this on the peninsula. what do you think about his comments there? well i agree with him. we had this bellicose rhetoric that s come out of north korea, particularly about nuclear war in a way we ve not seen before and intensity of it. he is not concerned about a nuclear war and he is not actually concerned about a conventional attack from the north to the south. what he concerned about we have a young leader trying to prove to his people that he is strong and capable and he stand up to what he calls u.s. aggression. he is fundamentally concerned about the north koreans miscalculating. he is not worried about what they say but what they could do that could escalate into something very serious. so that s
the grass roots. people seem really, really kind of excited about now people taking on the president. the president losing, the president overreaching, the president miscalculating, do you think this could be a shift in momentum politically speaking? i think it is and i think the fact that the president all of a sudden decided that he would enjoy dining with a bunch of senators and then discovered the joys of having lunch with paul ryan indicates that he knows that he s way overplayed his hand. that he won on the fiscal cliff and he s been crushed when he attempted the same class war game on the sequester. poll numbers were in mid, high 50 s and now 40 s. and the quinnipiac poll shows him actually one point underwater so i think he understands this has not been well-played and the energy that you re talking about among the conservatives is reflected by the fact that the white house and the