the war. bret: there will still be more troops on the ground than when he started. what has happened on the time since we had more troops on the ground since? remarkable progress in afghanistan. at times it s uneven and at times we made progress and at times the progress has been scaled back but what happened is things are going better. if you talk about military question, not governance question but strictly the mill their question here, why would you withdrawal surge troops at precisely the point they make the most progress? bret: charles, i want to talk about lib yeah. the pushback from congress. now this saving light saver of a resolution from kerry and mccain to authorize the operation in libya. the white house is now endorsing it. it s because of the damage obama has done to himself on this. no president should accept con constitutionality of war powers act. erpresident should have the
diplomatic circles trying to figure out what happens to qaddhafi, to his sons, are we talking to the opposition. will there be a plan of transition of gover government , so humanitarian crisis doesn t continue to spread. jenna: it looks like a war zone, it feels like a war zone, are we actually at war with libya. we are certainly in combat. i think you can say that. there is combat going on. the air crews that are participating in that and the ships that are participating in that you have to call that combat. whether or not we are technically at war with libya i think is something the legal scholars can figure out. jenna: a broader military question for you. we have talked a lot about the air strikes. now we hear these reports that qaddhafi is basically shrugging off the air strikes and still firing on his own people. do you think we ll get to the point where the air strikes are not enough that we are going to have to put boots on the ground there?
and at least initially it looks like it s had a positive impact in terms of preventing further civilian casualties. i think the what happens next and speculating about that, there s uncertainty associated with that. the whole idea is to put as much pressure on this guy so he doesn t continue to kill his own people and isolate him internationally, which he is, i believe, more than he has ever been. but isn t it a legitimate it s not just a diplomatic question, it s a military question. if the goals do not prevent gadhafi from going, what do we do? there s a prospect of a divided libya, gadhafi holed up. this is certainly the goals of this campaign right now, again, are limited and it isn t about seeing him go. it s about supporting the united nations resolution which talked of eliminating his ability to kill his own people as well as
on gadhafi s ability to use honor, artillery, dismounting people, assassination to subdue the rebels. not only in eastern zone, but downtown tripoli, for god s sakes, where they tried to rise up also. the military question is nonsensical. the question at hand is are we willing to use power to break up the libyan army. the armor, the artillery, to go after the command and control, to destroy the air defenses, go after the air force. he has no option but to fight. there s no out for him. he s a cornered rat. so i think we re we re really not thinking clearly about the means required to achieve the end that i think we want, which is gadhafi out of office. that s interesting. nonsensical is a strong word, of course. i want to go to steven and see what he has to say about this. is it possible we can accomplish the mission by using a no-fly zone? no, in my own writing and
haiti of joean-claude duvalier. he s believed to be directly involved in kidnapping, torturing, and murdering thousands of haitians and his political opponents. right now at the white house a high stakes meeting between president obama and china s president hu. while the trade deficit and human rights are key, there s also a pressing military question. china now has a new missile known as the carrier killer which targets aircraft carriers and china also has its first stealth fighter jet. chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski joins me live. it s a long term concern but there s no immediate alarm. they say after all, there is somewhat of a natural progression in terms of the modernization of chinese military. one of the bigger long-term kerns, of course, by the navy is