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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:44:00

state investigation in michigan might not have reached its conclusion yet either. the state investigator telling the court that the michigan attorney general s office still has outstanding subpoenas and search warrants as part of what he described as an ongoing state investigation into the michigan fake electors. he told the court, quote, it s still an open investigation. he also told the court at one point that investigators were treating the michigan state republican party headquarters as a, quote, crime scene. joining us now is craig mauger, politics reporter for the detroit news. he s been reporting on the fake elector news out of michigan. thank you very much for being here. thanks so much for having me. so this is a sort of sprawling case. there s 16 defendants, and there s been a lot of court proceedings already, not for all of them but for most of them, that are essentially designed to decide whether or not these charges are going to go ahead. it s a long process. it s a

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:45:00

given the number of defendants. what do you feel like have been the major revelations from the court proceedings that you ve covered so closely thus far? i think you ve hit on a couple of them tonight. that this is very much an ongoing probe. the attorney general s staff is trying to figure out what the guidance was that was provided to these 16 electors, whose signatures ended up on this certificate, falsely claiming that donald trump had won michigan s 16 electoral votes. this investigation is ongoing. there s some element of a federal probe that s looking at this as well that seems very much ongoing as you mentioned. the key thing here is the attorney general s office has to prove as part of this case to be successful that these individuals had an intent to defraud the public. the question is, did these individuals have that intent, or was someone essentially fooling them into signing this document,

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 02:03:00

unrelated to the shootings me but they believe he is connected to the shootings targeting democrats, including the incoming new mexico speaker of the house. police also said at this press conference tonight that they have now recovered a firearm, a gun, that they believe was used in at least one of the shootings targeting new mexico democratic lawmakers. again, that news just breaking tonight from albuquerque. police will let you know more on that as we learn more. tonight, in the state of georgia, all eyes are on the prosecutor s office in fulton county, where a special grand jury has now concluded its work after eight months of reviewing the evidence and hearing testimony from dozens of witnesses, the special grand jury convened in fulton county. today, they gave the fulton county prosecutor s office their recommendation on whether criminal charges should be brought against people who participated in the efforts to falsify the results of the presidential election of 2020. more on t

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 02:04:00

obviously, this is a potentially historic undertaking. never before in the history of the united states has a former president been charged with a crime. that is a distinct possibility for former president trump in the storage investigation, the report of the special grand jury there is in, the report of the special grand jury is not public, we are not sure when it will be made public. the prosecutor s office has that report in-house and can make their recommendation, excuse me, can make their decision based on their recommendation, at this point whenever they see fit. again, more on this i had over the course of this hour tonight, including what this milestone means in terms of when we can expect to know about decisions made by that fulton county georgia prosecutor as to whether or not she will bring potential criminal charges and against home. again, more to come on that tonight, potentially a very big deal out of georgia tonight. in washington, d.c. tonight, quite a lot going on

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 02:13:00

way they plan to operate from here on out. in 2020, they sent armed mobs out to government sites in michigan, idaho, pennsylvania, oregon, arizona, georgia, you name it and they sent them into state capitals, they sent them into office of statewide officials, the homes of statewide officials, always with guns. always with force. and now, even as the national expression of this tactic, january 6, 2021, even at that has been successfully adjudicated, and an upwards of 1000 people have been charged with their participation, and the national tactic from jerry six, 2021, now we are starting to see how this looks when this american right-wing tactic gets translated into foreign languages and foreign countries

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