suicide among trans kids. also a wild thing to say because she had spent much of the conversation talking about mental health and mental health statistics. and i think tying those things together the way she did was probably an error, frankly. it was interesting that on the issue of wokeness or culture war issues, she picked very specific lanes. one was this idea of kind of trans exclusionary talk, meaning the gender identity of trans youth, illegitimate in her eyes. she repeatedly called young people, biological boys, et cetera. she had specific things she wanted to talk about, and she also went after desantis in the most specific way in terms of line of attack, not just talking about what s going on with disney now but the past relationship with disney and how he s playing it up as an executive. it was one of the few times she poked at somebody else running in the race. we know she went down that road before, hitting him for his
the word woke after she was asked a question about it. i thought that was notable too. i think she did not steer the conversation into the territory of things that would get you retweets and likes on social media. and that was a choice. but when she did get to it, she really went for it on those issues of so-called woke-ism. there s a lot to say about that, but those are the things that struck me. there was a moment on that issue, she was talking about trying to personalize it saying that her daughter ran track in school and she couldn t imagine what it would be like for her to be in a locker room with somebody who was born a man. and then questioned whether or not that has an impact on teenage suicide among girls. and then jake pushed back on the other side of that, which is that there s also a high rate of suicide among trans kids. also a wild thing to say because she had spent much of the conversation talking about mental health and mental health statistics.