Never felt like i was giving up. No matter how much time i got because i knew the facts behind it and it was like the principle facts behind it refused to let me give you no matter what. Even coming home, when my case got accepted. It was like, im going home. It still didnt happen. Im thinking in 60 days the court will, im telling everybody im going home and there is people all the time up in there educating myself about the law, i know is fast to get in there, but when the wheels are turned to come home, its slow. I couldnt accept it. People are like they are going to do this to time. I said no, this is clear. This was what was supposed to have been done from the beginning. Even my families, my loved wupz ones that lost. That made me fight more. I never gate gave up my fate. My hope is restored. With that i would like to thank all of our panelist. Thank you. [ applause ] and we are now going to move to our second panel. While they take their seats, this idea of forced treatment versus
Madness made me fight. So i stayed fighting but i never felt like it was going to be over. I got a niece that is 23 years old right now, even in 2011 when my case got over turned and i called her and i said i will be home. She said you say that all the time. So i never felt like i was giving up. No matter how much time i got because i knew the facts behind it and it was like the principle facts behind it refused to let me give you no matter what. Even coming home, when my case got accepted. It was like, im going home. It still didnt happen. Im thinking in 60 days the court will, im telling everybody im going home and there is people all the time up in there educating myself about the law, i know is fast to get in there, but when the wheels are turned to come home, its slow. I couldnt accept it. People are like they are going to do this to time. I said no, this is clear. This was what was supposed to have been done from the beginning. Even my families, my loved wupz ones that lost. That
Madness made me fight. So i stayed fighting but i never felt like it was going to be over. I got a niece that is 23 years old right now, even in 2011 when my case got over turned and i called her and i said i will be home. She said you say that all the time. So i never felt like i was giving up. No matter how much time i got because i knew the facts behind it and it was like the principle facts behind it refused to let me give you no matter what. Even coming home, when my case got accepted. It was like, im going home. It still didnt happen. Im thinking in 60 days the court will, im telling everybody im going home and there is people all the time up in there educating myself about the law, i know is fast to get in there, but when the wheels are turned to come home, its slow. I couldnt accept it. People are like they are going to do this to time. I said no, this is clear. This was what was supposed to have been done from the beginning. Even my families, my loved wupz ones that lost. That
The associate director for the serial neeb breet program for the city of san diego. And San Francisco chief of police. Gary is a psychiatrist and lauras law advocate and eduardo vega of the Mental Health association of San Francisco. Let me start by opposing a question to karen chen from the public defenders office. Karen, can you how about if you start by giving us an overview of how the city handles this conflict between treatment and Civil Liberties. An involuntary hold starts in San Francisco when a peace officer or a clinician makes the determination that the person is due to a mental disorder, is a danger to others or danger to self or gravely disabled. Gravely disabled means that person does not have the ability to provide for basic needs such as food, clothing and shelter. And the legal representation starts in most cases the first 3 days of the involuntary hold during the initial psychiatric evaluation and then the legal representation also continues with if the person is aske
Treatment as jeff node is one of the most contentious issues of Mental Health. As you look at our discussion there are informed and panelled views from both sides. There has been many debates on how to implement lawyers law which consist of outpatient treatment. It was named after laura wilcox, a Mental Health worker who had been shot to death by a man who refused treatment. The county r remains the only county to implement the law. There have been other counties in Los Angeles County and other counties who are considering it. Why have they not adopted the law. What is it about forced treatment and the consequences for an allowing refusing treatment. We have a panel who have a knowledge of this subject in some cases because of their professional endeavors and in some cases because of personal experiences and in some cases, both. Let me introduce them. Karen chen is an attorney manager for the San Francisco public defenders office, kathy, whose son battled Mental Illness, can is a subje