needed, we needed time for us to unwind and gather our thoughts. greta: when the judge gave you the case to begin deliberations, you still didn t have a foreperson at that time. you go into the room and how did you get selected? what is the process? did someone say number 11 why didn t you do it? we didn t vote. i walked in and they said we need to find out who the foreo foreperson is going to be and just just about everybody said met. i was honored. greta: no one else said i would like to do it? one other person and everyone said me. she was excellent, she did a great job with aiding me. she was very intelligent. and she helped me out a lot. as did a lot of other jurors
of death way do you think that smell was? there are people that were riding in the car during the 31 days. one of the individuals testified she was in the backseat, people were near it and giving different accounts. all you can do is look at the evidence, the testimony it was very conflicting. that i believe is one of the many reasons that the jury came back with a not guilty verdict. greta: do you contest or deny there was a bad odor in the car? well, no. there was a bag of rotting garbage in the car. no, i wouldn t contest that. greta: if were you to do it all over again, is it worth it as a lawyer to do this? i know you guys are being targeted with nasty stuff. why do you do this? well, would i do it all over again? yes. yes i would. greta: why?
defense attorney dorothy clay simms. thank you for joining us. thank you for having me greta. greta: the chicago sun times reporting when casey anthony does leave jail she going to have to be in disguises. obviously you can t tell us about it. what are your thoughts on her level of need of security? i would hope that she would be treated with compassion and respect and her privacy taken care of. we are concerned about her for a number of reasons. but i have faith that people will come around, people will show compassion. i think things are calming down already. i m been getting e-mails telling me they ve been through circumstances and trauma and reacted in certain ways and they understand. so, my hope is that kind of sentiment will continue and she will be treated with
cause of death was unlawful. absolutely. unfortunately, because of the way the remains were, they were not able to show that. when you put the totality of circumstances together. partying, mother putting tattoos, lying about greta: that s the whole question. can the bad behavior, someone who is so wicked, her behavior is reprehensible can that sly the missing element needed to show it was an unlawful killing that it is murder? i think you can look at the whole course of her behavior in addition, it may be they didn t see that behavior. that partying that dancing. as consciousness of guilt. what he talked about that foreman with you, was motive. they thought motive offered by the prosecution was weak. remember the defense said, she partied before when caylee was alive. and then she partied after.
specific element of the charge, you can use that to convict. especially there is no cause of death. by your count the judge shouldn t let it go to the jury. the judge could have said you can t prove murder here. [ talking over each other ] what s that? greta: a jury a juror could conclude there was a murder. this jury could not. question is who did it? in my book someone acts like this is showing conscious of guilt. in one instance you cannot convict i have to agree with brother grimm on behavior alone. thank you bernie. what i m looking at here is what i thought was a strong circumstantial evidence case. greta: circumstantial of a cause of death? one of the things you have to show in murder is that