working on the line but what you are saying is important for people to hear. i know we have some confirmation of the ntsb and what they are doing now. sandra: they are launching a team to investigate the derailment in the state of washington. additional information to follow when available, that is an update from the ntsb. they are sending a team right now to washington state. if i could bring up one other thing, looking at the live pictures there, the weather. we haven t gotten any aerial images yet. it s been raining, it s foggy. we are told it s hard to tell in these pictures, it may be pretty wet or still raining. any local weather forecast right now they re supposed to be some rain in the forecast all morning. moisture wise for this area we have not had anything out of the ordinary. i would hesitate to think there was any kind of incident or
even as they were dangling, making their way out of windows. we have yet to hear any of the stories, we just have pictures to lean on at this point. based on your gut when you see that, what are your thoughts about what could possibly have happened? until the safety board gets there i d hate to make conjecture. right now i would probably say this is equipment or track derailment. harris: as we step away from speculation, i want to get you into the conversation here, good morning. it great to have you. it s unfortunate that we have the situation playing out but i want to draw everybody s attention, you see do you learn a lot by how people are moving around. larry, just to bring you into the conversation. larry: it shows you that
sandra: we continue to look at these live images out of washington state. we don t know a lot yet about injuries or possible fatalities from this train that still dangling, the train car is still dangling over the highway. amtrak has put out a statement that really only addresses the scheduling. we have not yet heard specifically from the company themselves. what they know about what the cause of the train derailment there. a railroad engineer expert is on the phone with us right now. goss, you ve been looking at these pictures with us, thank you for jumping on the phone with us. what can you tell us about what you are seeing and what can you make of it? i have to start with all i talk about, derailment 101. there are three things are going to put a train on the ground. something wrong with the track,
their aces system which is basically a version of positive part train control on the curb outside of philadelphia. the track in this accident i believe is on union pacific and i suspect, in fact i am pretty sure, the positive train control has been implemented on that track. about a year ago, they had a completion of most of their positive train control in the western part of their system. the amtrak train would ve been equipped with the same equipmen equipment. marie: for our viewers, describe what positive train control actually does. it s just another level of safety for the train, is that correct? what it does is if the engineer fails to comply with a signal or speed restriction, it automatically will take control of the train. harris: it s interesting, i was just reading up on that may 12th derailment you are
aerial view i could get a better idea of the dynamics of the derailment because that will indicate the speed of the train to some extent. sandra: marie harf, you seem to want to jump in with a question. marie: this reminds me a little bit of the 2015 derailment we saw around philadelphia, from what i ve been looking at, amtrak had 11 safety recommendations given to them after that, it killed eight people, 200 were injured, it turned out it was engineer failure but the train didn t have positive train control, some of these systems if there is operator error they help prevent it. do you have a sense, if the amtrak folks put in place some of the safety recommendations that were given to them in 20166 in the wake of that philadelphia accident? no, i don t. i believe they did implement