sending you to. we have mike allen. good to see you, mike. we have missed mike. with the politico morning playbook. they are talking about rick perry on politico and getting inside rick perry s mind. you were inside there. yes. how was it? did you find anything? you were talking bringing subtlety to the conversation. is rick perry dumb? maybe that s the subtlety you are asking for. people are asking in texas and increasingly seriously, heading into the nbc news political debate. next week, he debuted. people are trying to figure out, could he be the front-runner? we talked about this question. is he smart? is he not smart? mark minor said he s reading
not atheists and i think he s wrong. dead wrong. andrea: we have more atheists outrage. a street in new york city going back to 9/11, that they want to name heaven s way after the fallen victims of 9/11. atheists are going crazy about the street sign. there is also, greg, i want to ask you. you live in manhattan there is a st. mark s place. does heaven s way cross the line? greg: a point that atheism becomes its own religious. most of my friends are religious, i got a lot of friends who are also atheists, but what they have in common is they never talk about it. we don t bring it up. it makes people uncomfortable. atheists have to pick their battles. this is a terrible battle to pick. it s ridiculous. why should this bother you? andrea: eric, what do you think of the guy wearing the pastra strainer on his head?
andrea: well now, no surprise, an atheist group is suing to keep the governor from attending the event. freedom from religion foundation is arguing that perry s attendance violates the separation of church and state. wait a minute, doesn t the first amendment exist to protect faith? not prevent it? let s take a listen to governor perry. he came out and listen to his own words. bob: do we have it? andrea: yes, unfortunately, you have to gut through this. listen to governor perry talk about the prayer rally. with the economy in trouble, communities in crisis and people adrift in a sea of moral relativism, we need god s help. that s why i m calling on americans to pray and fast like jesus did. andrea: mark minor, his spokesman says they are not going to cancel the event despite the fact that atheists are up in arms about it and calling for him not to attend. so bob, i want to ask you. okay, you worked for jimmy carter, a born-again christian. you have worked i m sure you know