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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:00:00

intersections so that they have what they call a floating bubble of protection using the outriders. so it looks like a lot, but every vehicle has a purpose. two ambulances this time, one in case there s a medical emergency with the protection of donald trump. the other because when they did this the last time they had a motorcycle officer go down, and they want to have with that many motorcycles a spare ambulance. just in terms of the legal battle ahead for the former president, there was a pretty major development that hasn t gotten a lot of coverage, a legal move by one of the 19, chesebro, who s labeled as the creator or person behind the false elector scheme. explain his legal maneuvering and why it has such a big impact on the case. so this is a very big deal. there are 19 defendants charged in this case. kenneth chesebro, one of the defendants has demanded his

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:15:00

your right to sit on a jury, definitely lose your right to have a firearm. but you can run for president. getting 91 indictments should disqualify you for running as republican for president. in terms of the legal battles he s facing how much of a person s time is even up just dealing with this stuff? so a couple things. while you are on trial in a criminal case, you have to physically be there. so whichever trial goes first whether it s in florida, d.c., new york, or georgia, donald trump has to be there. that s in contrast we saw with the civil trial involving e. jean carroll. he was a no show. he has to physically be in the courtroom. why does he have to physically be there? it s a rule of criminal procedure. he has to present his own defense. can somebody waive those rights? generally, no.

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:48:00

the 2020 election under the guise there were some igregularities and things they needed to fix, changing places for drop boxes, changing who could deal with absentee ballots. they tried to capitalize and play on this idea, and now suddenly it appears they ve grown a conscience. if you think about this indictment, and i kind of step back sometimes from the case because i do think that lawyers need to think about how to lose and even before the coming motion on monday and the federal judge will hear this. 154 of the 157 overt acts that are alleged in this indictment occurred while he was silting president of the united states. sitting president of the united states, 154. 154 of 157. that s staggering. so everything except for that last document that he sent in september 2021. and those are the two counts that occurred after he was president. so when you think about the enormity of the decision this

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:50:00

thing for any of these similarly situated defendants to do, but i still think it s going to be very hard here. and i totally respect your tallying of the counts, but ultimately to make the case these acts were committed within the scope of their authority, they had to have been authorized under federal law. he had to have been acting under some authorization of federal authority. and the federal law gives the president of the united states zero role in the calculation of state election results, and that s ultimately what they were all doing. but it does allow the president of the united states to inquire about federal elections. sure. and inquire he did. so, when i think about was he the federal executive, i try to ask, at what point is he not the president of the united states?

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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 00:58:00

typically they would draw that jury from the atlanta division, metro atlanta counties in jor r jo. sometimes in cases where you don t think you ll get enough people from just that division, you may draw from the entire district, which would obviously mean even from the north georgia area where marjorie taylor greene is from and other people who might be favorable to trump. so, it expands even further if they need to do it. it wouldn t be unprecedented. they drew a larger jury in the arbery case in south georgia because they needed to make sure they had enough people who didn t have a preconceived idea about the case. that s what this is going to be difficult here. this jury selection could go on for some time, as they find some panel of 12 plus some alternates who have no feelings one way or the other about the former president. that becomes, i think, a difficulty. you can just look at the sort of public polling even on that. yeah. do you think this transferring

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