in addition to, obviously, with that would do in terms of riling up the house of representatives. we also have to consider, will the justice department go through with it? we have raised more simple cases and they have yet to act. this is what we are wrestling with. on the positive side, as with so many of these witnesses, we are learning a lot about their interactions with the president, with the white house, notwithstanding their noncooperation. we are getting the facts and i know that at the end of the day, that is the most important thing. we can put that information out to the public and we can aside from the prospect of a referral for criminal contempt prosecution, do you feel like what we have learned thus far might suggest criminal behavior by members of congress? i m thinking about these revelations today in this reporting from cnn that would
going to find themselves under oath, answering questions about what they did. joining us now is congressman adam schiff, he is a democrat in california. he s a member of the january 6th investigation. congressman, it is a real pleasure to see you. thank you for making time. great to see you. let me just ask you if that last point that i was making, that last question i was raising, is the right way to look at this? we know that your investigation has requested voluntary interviews from some republican members of congress and that none of them have agreed. do you expect that the investigation will come to its conclusions without ever speaking with any of the members of congress, who apparently were very involved in the machinations of this plot? i don t know whether we will get to speak with all of them, but it is certainly possible we will speak with some of them. and clearly, they do have very relevant information. but what s we are wrestling with is, we can subpoena them, but
and others engaged with very possible criminal activity to obstruct congress, to defraud the united states, to engage in conspiracy. i think that there is significant evidence of corrupt intent. some of the revelations that they mentioned go to the fact that white house counsel was telling some of these players like mark meadows that this is illegal. and it is also demonstrated that these individuals understood there was violence on that day that would be used to there are, i think, very substantial groups of evidence of criminality, whether those extend to congress, we continue to put the facts together and learn new information every day. do you think it is significant that we are learning from these recent disclosure is that there does
the january 6th attack. after the violent attack on the u.s. capitol to try to keep trump in power, a week and a half later, she was advising the white house that maybe martial law always going to be the thing to do. she was suggesting that three days before the inauguration of president biden and vice president harris, suggesting martial law was the way that trump should save the republic and stay in power. it s a lot. it s also it makes it, not hard to understand, because i think i understand it, but it makes it a remarkable thing, that the january 6th investigation apparently is not going to be able to take any testimony from serving republican members of congress in their investigation. we have known that that was unlikely when republican members of congress started saying no to requests to testify voluntarily. but now that we know how many of them were up to their next in this, including being involved in the discussions about getting the mob physically to the capitol building,
libbed a moment, as a surprise, including by mark meadows when he wrote his memoir about that. we are now seeing evidence that it was not a surprise. it wasn t ad libbed. and there was at least some planning, both involving the white house and newest members of congress, about the desirability of getting the crowd to converge on the capitol building that day. is that important? it s not just logistics or s that important in terms of the overall issue of culpability here? i think it is very important, to the degree that members of congress or the white house or the former president had as a part of their plan to bring that mob into the capitol, this was a way to break into the building, of trying to interrupt, disrupt, the joint session going on inside. and particularly, if the members of the administration that understood that there would be the participation of these violent, racist white