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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:58:00

it was from thompson attorney, saying his client was ready to cut the apron strings and testify against his mom. there is no way that we ever suspected that tom would have return on his mother. he was known to be a mama s boy. but a mama s boy who decided he did not want to die in prison, tom pleaded guilty to second degree murder, got 15 to life. besides helping connect the crime to his mother, tom had someone else he wanted to give up. that friend of brett schwab, the one brett claim to drive with him in the car and killed check jesse. despite the fact there was no forensic evidence to involve, his case went to trial. in february 2013, a jury found him not guilty, is defensive attorney believes he had been set up to take the fall as part of a conspiracy. that front is now a free man. as for sandra, her case went to court one month after her son one state sentence, the question was, what a jury believe tom s story?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:15:00

times that i thought, just move on. give up. move on. there was no hope of any new evidence, of course like fingerprints or dna. there was just the infuriating puzzle, which had become more difficult with each passing year. after i reviewed the case, i had no feeling for the family, no feeling for jack jessee. so, to get his head in the game. doug met with the people closest to jack, like his brother david. and, when i m with david he inspired me. his determination not to let the love for his brother go was a big motivating factor. but david also had some provocative information, something jack told him after arguing with sandra about moving to arizona. if anything ever happens to me it s her. he actually told me i would be surprised if killed me. he said that. and so dove stick to all the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:17:00

jessee. most of the tipsters information we re frustratingly vague like a riddle. yet another game to be played. there were two killers though he gave no names one had a knife and the other had the getaway car. both worked at a big box department store. the man who told the story in the bar that they had been the driver of the car and with the blood money he bought a truck and nasty doom. but on the question of who was behind the plot that is when the story named names. two of them they were sandra s son tom. the mama s boy jack raised us his own. on the the direction of the mastermind herself jack s wife. sandra. we go with that new perspective on the case dug revisited sandra s full interview. the hours of mostly useless chatter. how many times did you listen to that? it least ten times. and then it jumped out at him right about here on the table sandra s going through slips of paper in her day

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:05:00

who knew each other. protocol told him, look first at the person who reported the crime. which was his daughter, cheryl deanda. my daughter, we have to look at her as a potential suspect. she was the one of. founded back at the station, why it interviewed all relatives, including cheryl and jack s wife sandra who hadn t been missing at all. just out on the shopping trip. mrs. jessee came to the station to us voluntarily, she wanted to cooperate and solve the murder of her husband. and, she told him about life with jack, married 14 years blended family for kids. jack was a patriarch in the jessee klan she said. a teddy man of a man. jack was a very, very loving person who doted on his children, doted on his stepchildren, doted on his grandchildren. but, jack was ill. housebound after colon cancer surgery. sandra told the detective, she d been running a bit of a mercy mission for. jack and, doubled too long at

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:08:00

is just a few months before the murder when jack was diagnosed with colon cancer. the shock of course. but one of two shocks for sandra. and, to those around her, the second seemed somehow worse. her beloved son, tom up and moved. to arizona. and she was flipping out about it. yeah. she had to go. there she demanded jack moved to arizona to. that woman was off her rocker. her tone was just scary. it was like somebody else s voice coming out of her. but, surely that wasn t motive enough for murder. and, with plenty of suspicion, little else to go. on why it spent months pouring over sandra and jack s record statements, credit card bills, searching for, well he didn t know exactly what he was searching for. but, he was getting basically nowhere. we couldn t establish a pattern that was suspicious. then, why it s investigation

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