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Transcripts for CNN CNN Special Report 20240604 02:51:00

stop the steal rally on the ellipse just south of the white house. you can see the white house in the distance. and he fires up this crowd. this has been a year in which they have invaded our freedom of speech, our freedom of religion, our freedom to move, our freedom to live. i ll be darned if they re going to take away our free and fair vote! and we re going to fight to the very end to make sure that doesn t happen. over the next ten days we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we re wrong we will be made fools of. but if we re right a lot of them will go to jail. so let s have trial by combat. rudy giuliani arguing that he wasn t literally advocating for insurrection when he spoke at a pro-trump rally in washington just before rioters stormed the

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Special Report 20240604 02:38:00

saying, wow, it looks like he might do it again. i can t wait to get the results in. and if he doesn t win? that s not even an option. i think he s gonna win by a lot. that s my interpretation. four more years! four more years! i was in the east wing when the arizona call came. fox news called arizona, and that angered all the people around the president. and the mood changed, fundamentally. giuliani is furiously scrambling to figure out how to help the president. all of the people yelling suggestions. trump not knowing what to do. until one moment when rudy giuliani pipes up and says, just say you won. giuliani once said a pretty remarkable thing. he said, you could throw a fake. and what he means is, in politics, you can embellish,

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Special Report 20240604 02:15:00

is on twitter and on tv. he is treated differently and unfairly. i have no problem with that. he s innocent. he wants giuliani the prosecutor to prosecute the press, to prosecute the prosecutors. you got a hysteria going on in the media that interprets everything against donald trump. there s no hysteria here. and that is what takes giuliani all the way through the trump years. wait, wait. jake, jake, we are so distorting the system of justice just to get donald trump, it s gonna hurt us. he was spending a lot of time in the west wing. he was somebody who was constantly on call for the former president to reach out to. and i think this kind of brought back together this on-again, off-again longstanding bromance between the two, of these tough, of-a-certain-era new york men. he has this direct access without any of the responsibility or any of the accountability. as a skilled professional who figured out who to climb his way up in the legal world and then up in the

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Special Report 20240604 01:31:00

trump is a risky proposition for a general election. and yet polling that came out today from cbs news showed that 61% of republicans think that donald trump would definitely beat joe biden. so, that actually happens to line up, i think, almost exactly if had their poll with the percentage of republican voters who are voting for donald trump. these things are very related. this argument that he s not electable, right now a lot of republicans don t want to hear it. the question is if court appearance after court appearance after court appearance start wracking up, do some republicans who like him, think he s being charged unfairly, start going, maybe he is vulnerable. that could change things. if we definitely are going to get at least one trial, which is what voters are entitled to. we can t do all four trials, that s not going to happen. which one or two do you think are most important for voters ahead of the election? why do you have to ask a question like that? that s my job.

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Special Report 20240604 01:21:00

to seize a share of the pie here? listen, i agree with my friend bakari on this. i think that it s the candidates who are willing to take on trump that probably have the most to gain. asa hutchinson can burnish his conservative credentials but also litigate against trump. all fire is going to be directed at governor desantis. the theory is whoever can usurp the position of the number two spot has the potential to kind of rally the donors around them, try to get as many delegates, and try to, as quickly as possible, make it a one-on-one fight with donald trump. there s not a lot of data that suggests that is going to happen, and we re going see the a major shakeup. i do expect to see governor desantis to keep falling. i would note how stark those poll numbers. harry enten has pointed out, there s no historic example of somebody overcoming that big of a margin to go on and win the nomination. for some of these candidates, this is going to be the first time anyone who s really heard

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