limit raise, then that should absolutely be part of a negotiation. a deal the basic function of any deal is that one party may get one thing and another party may get another. and if revenue raisers are not a part of that conversation, the question that we need to ask is what actual deal is even being proposed. and it is precisely because the republican caucus refuses to concede any single point to the white house that we are in the situation that we are. and that it goes beyond the point that even president trump said during his administration that using the debt limit as a leverage point or negotiating tool is absolutely ludicrous and unacceptable because the stakes are simply too high. to hold the u.s. economy hostage, particularly if the republican evaluation is a cynical one saying if we tank
is contributing to this situation. am i hearing the focus needs to am i hearing you say that you believe tax increases, rolling back, perhaps, the tax cuts from 2017, needs to be part of the deal? if there is not a clean debt limit raised, then that should absolutely be part of a negotiation. a deal, the basic function of any deal, one party may get one thing, and another party may get another. if revenue razors are not a part of that conversation, the question we need to ask is what actual deal is even being proposed? it is precisely because the republican caucus refuses to concede any single point to the white house that we are in the situation that we are. that, it goes beyond the point that, even president trump said, during his administration, that using the debt limit, as a leverage point, or a negotiation tool, is absolutely ludicrous. it s unacceptable because the stakes are simply too high to
we can talk about all the immigration policies. but the left wants to bring out young kids who came here through no no fault of their own, quote-unquote, and use that as a poker chip, as a leverage point to say we don t need to secure the border. that s insane policy for our country. we can do better. shannon: i want to play something that one of your colleagues said this week. he says republicans actually savor this situation at the border, here s what congressman hank johnson said. republicans like to see them lined up at the border, because they know that that s a stream of labor ready to be exploited. if you could get back to slavery, you would gladly do so. shannon: your response to your colleague. look, i have no response to hank on this. hank also thought guam was going to tip over. that doesn t make any sense at all. what republicans want to see is a secure and orderly process at
and when we have that done, then we can talk about all the immigration policies. but the left wants to bring out young kids who came here through no no fault of their own, quote-unquote, and use that as a poker chip, as a leverage point to say we don t need to secure the border. that s insane policy for our country. we can do better. shannon: i want to play something that one of your colleagues said this week. he says republicans actually savor this situation at the border, here s what congressman hank johnson said. republicans like to see them lined up at the border, because they know that that s a stream of labor ready to be exploited. if you could get back to slavery, you would gladly do so. shannon: your response to your colleague. look, i have no response to hank on this. hank also thought guam was going to tip over. that doesn t make any sense at all. what republicans want to see is a secure and orderly process at
the his speech at the new york stock exchange which i commend everybody to the read, it was a great speech, and i notice you guys mentioned it a couple of times already. he mentioned that joe biden, when he was a senator, there were five dirty debt limit increases that had spending cuts, and he voted for four of them, and the fifth one he objected to because the spending cuts weren t large enough. and then under president obama when they negotiated the dollar to dollar swap with speaker boehner, they called those the biden talks. so president biden s position that we shouldn t use this as a leverage point for negotiation is something that that s just inconsistent with our historical experience, and it s not a really good place to start a negotiation, frankly. you know, he actually hat one at one point said it s demented to link the two. well, gosh, he did it himself many times. paul: this week he called the republican proposals whacko. let s say that the house next week passes thei