The chinese or worcester patterns. I like to do my own slight variations, but on porcelain shapes made at worcester, fired in the factory kilns to a very high temperature. So my part is doing the painting in blue, and it was sealed there for all time. And this lovely these are nasturtiums, are they . What are those . Uh, lotus. Lotus, ah. They were growing in the park in hong kong. I always liked whenever im traveling, i take a sketchbook, and i do little sketches, and then i work them out into porcelain designs afterwards. Oh, thats beautifully drawn. And so what do you do with them . Do you just keep them yourself . Do you are you gonna sell them . What do you do . Yes, this is really a hobby at the moment. I mean, one day, i think id like to have my own kiln and make porcelain. But at the moment, i just enjoy doing it and again continuing to learn from it, how difficult it is to make porcelain. Yes. Well, john, its always fascinating to find out what our experts do in their spare ti