and it seems to me that anybody who s the republican speaker right now is going to have to come to some kind of deal at some point on the fiscal stuff with obama and expose him or herself to cries of disloyalty on the right and any republican speaker will have to at some point deal with the debt ceiling which will come up in a more or so. is it possible for anybody to really be an effective republican house speaker? i don t envy the job but john boehner is a survivor. people forget that he had been on the leadership track rising up through the ranks and got derailed several years ago and he was able to come back. i remember seeing him at a republican event in the fwhooirnts in connecticut at a congressional race. he was he spent a decade and he may have spent two decades traveling around the country to competitive districts. he has a lot of personal relationships within the caucus even though there s a lot of new members. this is a real leadership test in navigating the fiscal cli
little bit out of the main leadership track, you are hearing some of that more bravado. what it comes down to is leverage, this is an opportunity to bring the biggest lever on making a deal. it s an opportunity. if they don t get anything or get something smoke and mirrors, republicans, i think they have a hard time going home, don t you? i definitely think so. you especially look at the fact that when there was this threat of a government shutdown, the republican leadership came up with a plan where they said it saved $38 billion. a few weeks late we are found out it only saved $300 million. and now we found out it s actually going to cost $3 billion. so this plan to save $38 billion ends up actually putting us $3 billion more in debt. i agree with you completely, pat. if they go ahead and pass the debt ceiling and check it off. reflexively. reflexively, without some serious cuts, i think that sends
cheetoe joe quite a bit. i don t know if they are speaking on if they are picking on potential speaker banor. i don t think in all seriousness that someone in the presidency should stoop to throw a blow at somebody in the minority leader position because it el vats the individual, and it is elevates the individual. he needs opposition, doesn t he? yes, he does. congressman, counterproductive to your future leadership role in the republican party is comparing baneer to cheetoe joe. when you lose your hair, you don t have much of a leadership track. he used a tanning bed. i got my color, honestly, hepatitis. that s true. greg, you said that video, the john dennis video had the production value of a vivid video. what s that? when you are holding up, i
response to the president of the united states on live television and i m watching and i said what just happened? he grabbed a thing of water, a container of water and starts drinking it. i said that s one i ve never seen before. so we were just doing it in fun. joining us now, sam stein, senior politics editor and white house correspondent at the huffington post. also an msnbc analyst. the if the of voto latino and host of changing america by shift on msnbc. and david frum, senior editor for the atlantic. what do you make of this rise in the polls of marco rubio it s a bookend, which is the big story of them all, which is the shrinkage of is jeb bush, which we re going to be months and month explaining. the votes that go to jeb have to go somewhere. marco rubio is very successfully elbowing his way to the front of the leadership track. maria teresa, his big
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