pandemic. steve: except the devastation wasn t inflicted by the pandemic but inflicted by the government starting with the cdc which catastrophically bungled testing so it was impossible to contain the virus here in the way the place like south korea and hong kong did. never forget how the media s precious cdc failed us about one month after germany developed their tests, the cdc finally built hours except it did not work and had to be recalled. precious weeks went by and university labs in the private sector were begging to make a test and the fda said no. finally, at the end of february only after president trump intervened with the red tape was swept away. that vital moment when it might still impossible to contain america s outbreak the cdc arrogance and incompetence were fateful. having allowed the virus to spread uncontrolled for months they then moved to the next disastrous blunder. instead of designing a strategy for the specific characteristics of this virus, clearly
the american public. overwhelming. so, the lab leak idea, right, the theory that it came from a lab in wuhan was dismissed by the u.s. government for a very long time. it had been it was very clear that it was seen by them as a conspiracy theory. do americans believe it? they believed it for a year and a half. i was surprised to find a poll from, you know, mid-2021 that actually found that the majority of americans believed it was likely that the way covid-19 came about was that it leaked from a lab. and on this particular issue, we do see democrats less likely than republicans. but the fact is you still see a very high percentage of democrats, 41%, and the clear majority of republicans on this particular issue, who believe that in fact covid-19 likely leaked from a chinese lab. and that majority, 60% majority holds to this day. and only going to go up. probably so. and, so, what does all this mean for americans perception of china? compare how americans perceive china f
will see our committee do. john: you mentioned people dismissed as conspiracy theorists if they embraced the lab leak idea. rewind the clock. con conspiracy theory going around the coronavirus originated and was perhaps man-made inside a lab in china. and then there is this theory, widely debunked. paper from two chinese, saying it could have leaked from two labs near the seafood market. weeks ago dr. anthony fauci rejected the virus was man-made, and yet donald trump is still pushing. escape from the lab, it sounds like something from a marvel movie or comic book. the lab leak theory is plausible, even as john kirby said yesterday there is no
sebastian. the united states department of energy has determined the spread of covid is most likely the result of a leak from a chinese lab in whulan. that s according to an updated classified intelligence report but two sources said that the department only has low confidence in the findings. the lab leak idea is one of several that have been floating around washington but there hasn t been a consensus or official opinion from the white house on the cause of the pandemic. a former united states ambassador to china said no matter what the reason, chinese authorities should have sounded the alarm sooner. whether it came from a labor from animals is that the chinese were very slow in alerting the world to it and only came out from bits and pieces from scientists and doctors with in china and by them it was too late. meanwhile one united states
john: the head of the world health organization saying it is too soon to rule out an lab leak in wuhan china as the source of the covid pandemic. now a top official says the lab leak idea must be taken seriously, and he is calling for an investigation with better cooperation from china. fox s marc siegel has an exclusive interview. dr. siegel joins us now. what did you learn? hi, john. in my exclusive interview, head of the nih, continue to maintain that the virus that sparks the covid pandemic came originally from nature, though he now acknowledges that it could have linked from the lab. it really doesn t make sense that this was human engineered. it does not have them ask that you would expect. it feels much more with this having been a natural event over the course of years, happening in bats and maybe sometime in an