that will drive everybody crazy. then you will act. yeah. you can t i think we can all agree this doesn t get done by just strong wording condemnation. you have got to hurt them. have you got to make that those leaders. have you got to bleed them. and a big i don t want that. i have been fighting wars for 25 years. but, they have got to we have got to take them down. kat: see how china responds to this ramping up. they don t want war in that area either most of all. brian: i want to challenge the theory that everyone seems to agree on that it s going to be a disaster if kim falls. they are already starving to death. they already have no rights. you drop food in there it will be the best day they have ever had. we go in with the u.n. and say we have no more guns we just want to feed you. it will be okay. kat: propaganda that we are the enemy and trying to go after them. it s not like here where we have all these different media sources. kim jong un tells them what they t