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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:27:00

wanted to know, what was all this about? what drove dan to do it? your motive behind killing sam was? money and insanity. money and insanity. [laughter] i don t know. i don t know why i did it. the centuries-old motive money. more than $60, 000, in fact. sam herr s combat pay. when he was deployed, basically all the money that he was earning in the military just went into a savings account. he didn t spend it when he was deployed. and dan wozniak wanted that money? yes. and julie kibuishi? dan said he killed her to cover his tracks and to frame sam. to make it look like he was on the run and he did it. he was the one that did it. right, and that if he was disappeared completely, you d never find him. and it would all go away. but none of this was going away. especially for those left behind in the wake of two

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:40:00

i absolutely think she poisoned michael s mind as far as what sam was. everything he knew about him was that he was a violent person. as a drunk, as a as a liar. that from one person and one person alone, danielle. did you have any evidence investigating the same was abusive or violent towards daniel? there was no evidence that whatsoever. daniel, luckily, had control over michael minor. she did manipulated. did you manipulate him to the point of killing sam? i don t know. detectives mcdonald and realize they need to pay danielle dreher another visit. we are going back to further what is your intent? what is your involvement in this? coming up did someone have 1 million

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:27:00

i don t know. and that next evening, dan took the stage once again in the musical nine, yet another pitch-perfect performance captured on videotape. you ve sat across from a lot more murderers than i have, but that seems astonishingly sort of cold-blooded and remorseless. it was shocking, and these were two of his so-called friends. it s horrific. it s sad. it s horrific. investigators, of course, wanted to know, what was all this about? what drove dan to do it? your motive behind killing sam was? money and insanity. money and insanity. [laughter] i don t know. i don t know why i did it.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:42:00

day julie kibuishi and sam herr had been killed. rachel never told police about the meeting with chris, so now they wanted to know why. once again, here s josh mankiewicz with final curtain. a reluctant rachel buffett took a voice stress analyzer. the results were less than encouraging. i gave you 3 tests today, okay? all 3 are deceptive. i know my stories and timelines are kind of juggled up because my mind is not there now. i m trying to remember everything i can. i ve told you guys everything i know. i m completely innocent. maybe. now, detectives smelled blood. they circled back to that friday when dan left with sam, and came back without him. he s gone for 3 hours, and he comes back having a heart attack. yeah. we know he s out killing sam at that point. i thought he was just overreacting because he thought he was afraid of loan sharks

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:43:00

attack. yeah. we know he s out killing sam at that point. i thought he was just overreacting because he thought he was afraid of loan sharks and getting hurt. rachel insisted she had known nothing about the murders, until dan confessed to them. detective ed everett had suspected otherwise, from the moment he brought her into the interrogation room to see dan. what happened? he killed julie. why? it was almost like they were looking at each other, feeding off each other, and she was waiting for her next line. remember, rachel and julie had been friends. her reaction when she heard what sam supposedly did to julie did not seem to match that. i m sorry that i am not the kind of person who just goes

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